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[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago

I mean maybe? I certainly was both a PC and Console gamer for most of my life now and I'm certain there will be a percentage that will continue to do so.

Nowadays? Nah, I'm out of the console game since graphics aren't better than the PC and the PC options for playing on a TV are numerous now.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Oh that reminds me, didn't Horizon Forbidden West finally come out for real this year? I think they had some sort of limited beta on some proprietary hardware in 2022 and 2023.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

I didn't even see the latest Spider-Man film until it there was a matinee at the dollar theater. I am not paying the equivalent of a car payment to play a PS5 exclusive...I just don't care that much, boss.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

Just be a hardware company with a publishing division like you used to be. The tech monopolies rose and fell while you were asleep; let us just enjoy our games now.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

I didn't even buy games from Big studios when they launch - I usually like to wait a year. That's plenty of time for them to patch all the (unintended) stupid out of it, since nobody knows how to release a finished game anymore. I tend to be more forgiving with indie games, but will never again buy early access something that doesn't have a concise roadmap, have regular updates, and communicates regularly. I've been burned by too much vaporware and "lol we're done even if the game sucks" bullshit we see too often. And it's not like we have a reason to be loyal to any brand in the 21st century. They're not our friends.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

PlayStations CEO is a huge fucking idiot, what a surprise.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Is the CEO underestimating patience or is the author overestimating?

It's not as if PlayStation is struggling right now. The PS5 seems to be selling pretty well.

Not to mention that consoles and PC's are indirect competitors. A lot of people want to use a controller form their couch without jumping through hoops. Gen Z is trending away from desktops and laptops entirely in favor of mobile devices.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

Bro, I still haven't finished Elden Ring. Who the fuck needs a game on day one when it'll still be there on day one thousand?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The PC community has slowly shifted towards buying/preordering 'full price' games and succumbing to micro(macro)transactions in the same way console markets do. But I don't think buying a whole other device is on the menu for most.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (3 children)

What do you mean by "shifted to". Was there ever a time when these were more common on consoles?

The game widely attributed to starting "micro transactions" was MapleStory, a windows MMORPG. PC games adapted online features like digital-only delivery, DLC's, and micro transactions before consoles even had the capability to do so figures out. Even before online capabilities, I remember going to game stores in the 90's and seeing "expansions" for PC games, which is what we used to call DLC back when it was physical.

When think "microtransaction", I think of a handful of different games immediately. MMO's, which are much more common on PC (chat features, complex inputs requiring a keyboard, add-ons or other enhancing programs running in the background). Simulation games (the Sims, Truck Simulator, Farming Simulator, Cities Skylines, Civ, etc) that usually are much easier with a M&KB than controller. Multiplayer battle games like MOBA's or shooters (Valve has DOTA 2, TF2, CSGO and most others are either PC exclusive or multiplat). When I think of Sony in particular, I think of their cinematic single-player experiences. Which may have some DLC, but I don't associate with predatory micro transactions like cosmetics or P2W schemes.

Consoles have tons of that too nowadays, but it seems like kind of weird to act like PC users are somehow less interested or susceptible to predatory pricing schemes.

Both pale compared to the mobile market though.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Wouldn't that be overestimating?

I'm sure as shit not buying a PS5 for any exclusive, PC or GTFO

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

No, they underestimated because they thought pc gamers would want to do whatever is necessary to play the sequel now, but pc gamers will wait forever if they have to rather than buy a console.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

I mean if that worked, it would have worked so repeatedly in the past. Comments like these ought to immediately result in termination with no recompense, as they're just factual bullshit that can be proven wrong with 10 seconds of googling.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

That would be like buying a car for ten times the price, limiting it to 10 kph and forcing yourself to sit on a 30*8 cm dildo while driving it: Way too expensive, limiting in every way and extremely uncomfortable.

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