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I've been doing this for some time now. Even if it's something that I consider important.

I just don't see the value in participating in a discussion that I have seen countless times already where the same points and arguments happen over and over again. One that I know wilI turn ugly. It's exhausting and I've decided to just opt-out.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Yes. But more importantly, I find myself (in hindsight of course) participating in conversations I probably should not be participating in to begin with.

I have a bad habit of leaping without always looking. If you look at my comment history, I’m sure it’ll stick out like a sore thumb. But that is my proverbial cross to bear, and it’s something I feel like I’m getting better at.

But, that aside, there are plenty of things I’d love to discuss with people that I know would not be received well, or like you said, have been discussed to death.

Great question!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

All the time.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

The block button works for me

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

i usually do. it also helps to check first if the sub is light-hearted and sharing is very welcome.

there's a chance the sub is already at a devolving to name slinging and memes and that requires a different touch.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Yes, sometimes. Though I try to remember that one of the reasons for that phenomenon is just that new people are entering the environment every day, something that will never end. It's easy to think it's always the same people arguing, but it's not. There's just a lot of different people in the world.

When I think it's possible to try to improve the discourse over what we've seen in the past, I'll sometimes make an attempt. When I have the time and energy for it anyway, I don't always.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

I don't mind discussing politics or religion, even though I don't repeat myself in the same discussion and don't engage with trolls. However, I absolutely never discuss my family, my personal matters and my racist views.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I have done this from time to time. Need to go back to it. There's too many Dwight Schrutes online. Thanks for the wisdom. OP.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

People are only ready to receive so much Truth.

And ~~even~~ especially then, likely with anger.

... and ofc that includes ourselves as well btw.

It's not all that different from irl conversations then, except you cannot look in each others' eyes to gauge sincerity. So ask yourself: why have irl conversations at all - especially when you know they will turn ugly? We cannot really help you further b/c you have hidden behind an alt account here, though I hope this gives you some stuff to think about.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Honestly, my only thought right now is "?"

We cannot really help you further b/c you have hidden behind an alt account

I don't understand this, do you think I'm someone else from here that's using an alt? Because if you do, I'm not, you got it wrong.

So ask yourself: why have irl conversations at all - especially when you know they will turn ugly?

I do avoid some conversations IRL because I know they will get ugly and me giving my opinion isn't necessary or important. There's a saying in my country about never discussing politics or religion. Seeing how some people can get when you disagree with them, I've found it wise to follow it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

I was typing something, was going to just delete. So yeah

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, there's plenty of topics I avoid discussing on the internet. I'm not here for an argument.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

it's been 8 hours and there's no reference to the Monty Python "argument sketch". That's refreshing.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Yeah, and the worst is when people are talking about something I know a lot about, getting virtually every detail wrong, and I have to resist saying anything because I know my input will either be ignored, or worse, straight up unwelcome.
Luckily the blessing of being dumb as bricks is that that doesn't happen a lot, but I sure hate when it does.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Yes because there are certain areas where paid actors, including bots, overwhelm any organic discussion. I have discussions about stuff like that in private chats with people I actually know.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I certainly do. Every internet community is a bubble and I do not appreciate getting into fights with a brigade of people who hate me just for having an opinion that does not align with their dogma.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Maybe try a more formal debate setting? I know there are some places like "the crucible" that facilitate that.

I doubt you will find anything on Lemmy unless you start up a highly moderated community. Even then, people can bring questions against the moderators.

Discussion and debate are pretty lawless in nature.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

That's probably smart. Even with important things I don't think online arguments have ever swayed anyone. I like being an annoying vegan and arguing about it occasionally, but sometimes it's just frustrating and I have to disconnect for a while.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Several I never comment on or engage with, several I comment on and very few topics I engage with.

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