It plays way more than that, I play all sorts of "unsupported" games all the time - mostly they run fine or even great (never mind all the emulators lol)
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The ProtonDB Decky plugin is so much more useful than the Steam Verified one.
I have not even begun to fuck with games outside of Steam yet. My backlog of stuff I want to play is insane. I probably could not play through even just the fully supported games before I died, never mind all the other stuff.
What if you include the switch games it can play? Hehehe
Does 29% include the 99% of switch games the deck can play?
Nope.
Given that compatibility improvements can essentially only be expected from Ryujinx now though, does Ryujinx run as well as Yuzu on the Deck? Ideally I'd like to switch to it entirely unless a viable Yuzu successor emerges, but I've heard that it's not as resource efficient in comparison.
In my opinion it's not "as good" as yuzu, for now. That said it still runs about anything I throw at it, but yuzu did it better with higher frame rates.
Yuzu is better overall, but Ryujinx works weirdly better for certain games. Like, Mario Wonder runs about 40% better for me on Ryujinx for some reason.
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It has some value as a comparison, some people might be worried about buying a deck because they've heard that some games don't work on it because of linux. But no one would think the Switch is lacking in games.
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You say that, but I can keep my deck in docked/gaming mode, and my son who's only 7 has been playing away it like its a switch.
I think people just like to make excuses for their spending habits, which isn't wrong at all. It just becomes disheartening when you say such blatantly wrong things.
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Generally speaking you're either playing docked, or sitting down. Not typically both, but I know what you mean. Even then though, any of the games he plays just automatically readjust the resolution to handheld mode and works just fine. Then when you plug it back in, it knows to stop using the steam as monitor 1 and switches the output to the TV.
Not sure how you're doing it, but its worked fine for me.
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Given that most game developer don't even target the Steam Deck, it's quite impressive. The Switch and Deck have a lot of junk games too. And both are handhelds, capable of docking to the tv/monitor. While both systems are vastly different, they have lot of in common and people might buy only one of the systems. Therefore comparisons fair or not, are still comparisons people make and decide.
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I wanted to buy a switch for the longest time, but after Nintendo being cunts, I will buy the deck and simply emulate any and all Nintendo games. They don't deserve any less
My wife adamantly refused to get a Steam Deck for herself, saying that she would never give up her Switch.
Cut to one year out from buying one for her, and the Switch has been in a bin almost the entire time.
The steam deck library includes the entire switch library via emulation, so Yeah Obviously. (Ik they're not counting emulation, but my point is that the steam deck is a PC, which makes it much more versatile)
They just talk about Steam games that were verified by Valve's process. So yeah, as you said, it's much larger for people who are willing to do a tiny bit of tinkering 👍
@Fubarberry My one wish is they (Valve, Nintendo, etc.) could make discovery easier and more useful. It takes a lot of effort finding new games to play that aren't the usual major releases and obvious indie titles.
Edit: The two resources I use are https://bestofsteam.com/ and https://steam250.com/
Valve actually does a lot to make discovery easier, compared to Nintendo:
- Personalized recommended system based on played games: Interactive Recommender
- A dedicated explore list you can go through: Discovery Queue
- The numerous festivals: Steam Next Fest
- Listings for genres and other categories, examples: Action, Great on Deck, Local Multiplayer & Party
- A system where you can follow certain curators and games get recommended based on them: Steam Curators
You really can't say Valve wouldn't do a lot to help with discovery.
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Don't forget about emulation. You can basically emulate anything you like, including Switch games. Ryujinx supports over 3K Switch titles.
Only 29%? The fuck does Nintendo even have on there?
A tremendous amount of bloatware and ports of iOS games.
That's not fair. The switch is a great console for indie games.
Obviously, so is the Steam Deck, but that doesn't discount the Switch for having a solid library of games outside of the usual Nintendo shite.
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According to Wikipedia, there are less than 5000 games for nintendo switch, while the Steam Deck is far beyond 10k games.
According to this website, there are about 11k switch games. There are some duplicates on that list though, games which have multiple "editions" will have an entry under each version. For example, Xenoblade Chronicles DE is listed 4 times to cover different regional collectors editions.
Thanks you for the clarification!
I like the Deck, but lately been using my Switch again because I like the battery life and the smaller form factor sometimes. I hope Valve releases a Deck that is a little easier to slip into a bag and that can do a bit better than 1.5-2.5 hours of battery life.
I’ll still use my Deck, but in some cases where the same game I want is available on Switch and I am traveling, I will choose the Switch for its form factor.
For me, I have come to appreciate switch lite form factor to be honest. I like the deck too but its too bulky for me personally. I fucking love vita and 3ds lite but small size has it cons such as underpowered cpu, battery etc but damn it i like it fit enough on most pocket and easily slid into bag.
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I just hope this kicks off a revolution of not needing stupid GPUs requirements.
This is just talking about games approved through Valve's verification process.
I was gonna say that number sounded VERY low.
That difference seems far lower than I would have guessed.
Oh. The "verified" status accounts for the difference. That's fair.
My initial mental math was including unverified Indie games I already bought for my PC, most of which happen to work perfectly.
I expect that difference to go up fast over the next few years as more indie devs discover that they don't actually need to change many of their old games to get verified.
Yeah, even the "playable" tag i have to check what they mean by that. Psychonauts 1 and 2 are "playable" but both need you to manually pull up the keyboard and show xbox controls... Like okay? That's all? They play perfectly.
I also downloaded an indie game "tonight we riot" and its not even tested. Want to geuss how well it plays? Spoiler, perfectly fine.
I'm genuinely greatful for steam personally pushing for more games to work well in linux even if the game needs a compatibility layer like Wine or proton.
Nintendo switch is just a money grab.....they made it so you can't do anything other than play games....they blocked the access to Internet browsers which is where the steam deck excels over the switch......as someone pointed out the games library is far greater than 20 plus percent due to emulators....basically it excels over the switch in all departments, even graphics power is far better......if someone wants to waste thier money on a dud then fair enough.....personally I think the people who say they're going back to switch is the ones who struggle with Linux and give up....
Uhhh yeah of course it's a cash grab, it's a product from a for-profit business. They want to make money from it. Valve is trying to grab cash too.
And eh, the deck isn't better in all departments. It costs significantly more, it's far bulkier, you can't share your physical game cartridges with friends/family, the battery life is worse, couch gaming isn't as refined, detachable joycons are great, the switch is better at split screen gaming especially considering you don't need to buy any extra controllers to do it, etc.
I have a Switch and a Steam Deck, I've played on both for thousands of hours. They're both good devices.
Liking one doesn't mean you have to hate the other one. They're not even directly comparable. Sure they seem similar on the surface, but IMO they're pretty different devices with less overlap than you'd expect.
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This is a really weird rant. Nintendo and Steam operate in two different markets. Nintendo is on the game console industry. Valve is on PC gaming.
Yes, you can play Nintendo games on PC, and by extension, Steam Deck.
But in no way is Nintendo interested in PC gaming.
even more if you account for ahem nes archival sites
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