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[–] [email protected] 88 points 5 months ago (8 children)

It's like all we heard about the PS5 was that it was super hard to get when it came out and then it kind of disappeared from our collective consciousness

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago

Yeah that and it's still super expensive and does not have system sellers for me. Eg. Uncharted.

Also I don't need another PC, thank you.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 5 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 48 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That's a good thing - as the consumer.

The less exclusives, the better. We don't need lock-ins, we need open platforms and open systems. If I want a plug&play gaming experience I can buy a console, if I want maximum performance and quality in a more maintenance and setup intensive package I can build my own PC.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (4 children)

For real - it’s so nice nowadays being able to play nearly any hot new game I want to on my desktop. Never been a huge fan of consoles - keyboard+mouse was always far more natural for me, but then again I was big into C&C and SC when I was a kid. The only console I’ve really loved since the N64 is the switch, and that’s largely because I can bring it on a long flight and fuck around in ZELDA: BOTW or TOTK for hours on end, which is awesome (I tend to avoid putting games on my personal dev laptop, and it also only has an iGPU).

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (5 children)

Here are the trends with previous consoles:

PS1 : 455 -> PS2 : 512 -> PS3 : 180 -> PS4 : 58 -> PS5 : 15

Xbox : 106 -> Xbox 360 : 214 -> Xbox One : 12

Nintendo 64 : 129 -> Nintendo Wii : 328 -> Nintendo Wii U : 38 -> Nintendo Switch : 174

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And that’s why the newest console I own is a Switch, and everything else I play is on PC.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

I’ve even moved all my Switch playing to PC hahaha

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

That's super interesting. Do you have a source you could link for this data?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

They’re a gamer what other credentials do you need?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Now do the same for PC

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

Jesus, only 4 games in that otherwise short short list ring a bell for me.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (6 children)

"meaning the other 59 million must still be using the PlayStation 4."

That's not what that means.

As of last December there were still 2 million active PS3 users.

https://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2023/12/26/ps3-monthly-active-users-report/

I'd imagine there's still a limited number of PS Vita and PSTV accounts too.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Hacked Vita is still great.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

Hacked Vita with RetroArch is so so so much fun!!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

I love my vita !

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

I had a lot of fun with my Vita even without hacking it. It had a longer lifetime than people realize, in part through digital sales and indie games that were planning to do PS3/PS4 releases anyway.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Still the best console of all time so that's a pretty solid stopping point

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The best console is still foot with bash.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Forgive me while I groan

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I don't think PSN applied to the PS2, started with the PS3.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 months ago

My ps5 is basically a really big PS4 lately.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Well, I can only speak from my own experience.

When the PS5 launched I wanted to upgrade but you literally couldn't get it because it wasn't in stock anywhere. You could only find it on eBay of some private seller that started at almost double the price, no, thank you. Then Sony introduced this "Register and on the next event you get a slot to buy one from the official Website" which was great. I got invited the first time and literally couldn't buy it because the website was broken. Whenever I wanted to select my payment method the checkout got blank and there was nothing you could do. Even worse was that you couldn't hard refresh the shop because this would have killed the session that the website needed to allow you to buy it. So, even switching browsers with the same "invitation link" didn't work. I reported this to the support, but they didn't really care. half a year later, I got my second invitation link and the same happened then as well. I reported it again to the support, but they still didn't know what to do with that information or wanted to troubleshoot this.

And now, there isn't really a need for it anyway. The Games that I would have wanted to buy on the PS5 released on the PC.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago (2 children)

All the greatest recent games run super well on the Steam Deck, so there's no need for a giant console cosplaying as a router.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

Right? I've had the Xbox since the beginning, didn't get the last upgrade and finally sold the One to get a steam deck.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago

I upgraded to PC running Linux instead

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Sometimes I forget it is a thing.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

PS5 owner here. Me too.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (3 children)

If they would make them backwards compatible I would be more likely to upgrade it still bugs me that they stopped doing that. I miss my old PS3. That thing was awesome I even installed Linux on it and had emulators working… the good old days.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You can (and I have) play PS4 games on PS5.

First thing I did when I got the PS5 was buy a bunch of cheap used PS4 games for it.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago

It is backwards compatible, though?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I have appreciated the backwards compatibility of my Xbox. The studio closures and dearth of games, less so

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Get a PS5 and become less than appreciative about bad backwards compatibility AND studio closures.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

I have a ps1, 2, 3 and 4, a psp, a vita, I also have a NA snes, OG xbox, xbox360 and xbox one. I pretty much don't play with any of them, I work too much...

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

I only bought a ps4 well after the 5 dropped, and only because my pal had got a new xbox and wasn't playing with his ps4 anymore. Long story short I got the ps4, 3 controllers, and 5 hardcopy games for £50 and a joint. Until I can get a ps5 for that....I ain't upgrading

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

For me, it was:

  • You couldn't get one for ages when it came out, so I missed the initial hype period.

  • When it did finally become available, it was prohibitively expensive.

  • There are no real killer exclusives or features so no particular reason to upgrade, aside from games looking nicer.

  • Sony is releasing all the good stuff on PC now, so if I want to play a nicer-looking version of a PS4 game I can just do that.

  • Steam Deck

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Surely they're all just waiting for the PS5 pro? That will solve it! /s

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

Or, seriously, a PS5 slim. (Actually slim, not the slight redesign they did.)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Most people don't need the newest and expensive tech. From the last 30 days of active games on Playstation brand, here a split PS3/PS4/PS5 (I just show a ratio that is set in relation to the numbers of players for the game), meaning left side is older console:

https://ps-timetracker.com/statistic/last-30-days

  • - / 42 / 14 Fortnite (3 times)
  • - / 3 / 2 Roblox (1.5 times)
  • 0 / 33 / 9 Minecraft** (3.7 times)
  • - / 14 / 9 Cod:MW2 (1.6 times)
  • - / 38 / 12 GTA V (3.2 times)
  • - / 23 / 8 Rainbow Siege (2.9 times)
  • - / 26 / 8 Apex Legends (3.3 times)
  • - / 17 / 7 Overwatch 2 (2.4 times)
  • - / 1 / 1 EA Sports FC 24 (1 time)

Edit: I have added simple math result in how many times the PS4 player base is big as the PS5 player base. Just out of curiosity and to provide a quicker way of scanning through the list.

(**ps3 players almost at 0 level for this game)

As you can see, all games are available for PS4 and they run decent enough, are multiplayer games and the new consoles do not offer anything substantial for these kind of players.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

IMO improving graphics technology is a case of diminishing returns. Sure you can always make a better looking game by throwing more processing power at it, but that has (at best) a minor effect on things like gameplay and story. Like seriously, if Squenix had decided to make FF7: Rebirth in the PS3 era, other then some uglier graphics how much would the game have have been different?

And (to actually tie this in to the thread) that's the reason PS5 sales have been so sluggish. What do you really need those PS5 graphics for? I mean my PC is still running hardware from 5-10 years ago, because there isn't anything I really need to upgrade for. Most of what I've been playing is indy titles and for the few graphic intensive games I want to play they'll usually run if I lower some graphics settings.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

Exactly this. I'll always maintain a game will be and will remain prettier is an artistic style than an ultra realistic style. It just takes up resources that could be used elsewhere for the sake of looking pretty for the next 3-5 years before the "Uhh muh Guuhhhhd, it looks so realistic" ages like milk. Games like Wind Waker and Okami still look gorgeous today.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

All the games are in both consoles. If amything, it's dragging down PS5 ppl.

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