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[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

isn't the title misleading?

tiktok isn't banned in france. Paris is trying to reimpose itself on New Caledonia by all means. A correct title would be: Tiktok ban in New Caledonia makes VPN usage soar

it's probably temporary. Either they go free and tiktok is back, or Paris regains control and tiktok is back 🀷

☞ New Caledonia riots: parts of territory β€˜out of state control’, French representative says

☞ We will fight until Kanaky is free’: how New Caledonia caught fire

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

A correct title would be: France bans Tiktok in New Caledonia making VPN usage soar

FTFY. It's not really a "correct" title if it completely obscures the aggressor.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Banning websites in the year 2024 is never going to work. The average user is more savvy than the average lawmaker.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

IDK is the average TikTok user really installing VPN software on it's phone? And if something is banned in a country companies are far less likely to put in effort in it.

So even if people can still use it, technically, TikTok lifes of selling scam shit to people... If you have the skills to install a VPN your probably also not falling for that stuff.

I actually see that as a win. TikTok is not a platform for political discussion or private communication (by design) so I don't hate the idea of it getting banned.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

IDK is the average TikTok user really installing VPN software on it's phone?

Yes. From the article a, 2500% spike in VPN usage.

TikTok is not a platform for political discussion

Yet, despite that, it's working as one. Effectively.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

is the average TikTok user really installing VPN software on it’s phone

Depends on the country. If you're in India or China, absolutely. And those countries have the largest populations on Earth by more than 4x the #3 spot.

Some are even getting randomly arrested right off the street for using them: https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/man-booked-for-using-vpn-in-j-ks-rajouri-3rd-such-case-in-2-days-5612508

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Just because it's much more common in those countries compared to USA or Europe to use a VPN it doesn't mean the average user there is actually using them. If there are even regions where it's forbidden to use a VPN (than that's highly concerning more than a TikTok ban or anything else!) it's even more unlikely the average user will have VPN access.

And again all of my other points I think are much more important in that thought process.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You think too far. Some people have the knowhow to install a VPN on a phone and access tiktok. They share that info.

People that just want to access tiktok follow the info to install the VPN and have access to tiktok.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Meanwhile people still arguing Fedivers will never succeed because it's to complicated to pick a server :D

If someone goes the extra mile to get informed about and use a VPN, this person is no longer the average user of TikTok. I'm sure everyone including a 90 years old grandma is able to setup and use a VPN on it's own, put it requires a change in mind that definitely impacts you behavior online for the better. So again would be a Win.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm not on tiktok but my understanding is that there's a lot of Palestinians on there whose voice otherwise wouldn't be heard from the taxpayers that are funding their genocide.

That's a very positive political consequence of the platform.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Sorry to say that but that sounds like a "Hitler built the Autobahn" argument for me. Don't be fooled TikTok is highly controlled and influenced by the Chinese government. Yes TikTok is promoting the oppression of the Palestinian people because this topic coincidentally proved to be quite effective in supporting Chinese government agenda and distract from their own problems. The voices of other oppressed people are still silenced on that very same platform, see almost every inner chines dispute.

And it's not that TikTok would be the only platform that Palestinian voices could be and are actually heard. You can speak about this on almost every other platform. Plus: if all this people would just leave TikTok and use the Fidivers instead this would be a double win for everyone including the other oppressed voices on TikTok.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Say what you want about tiktok but damn if it isn't extremely effective at sending information out of reach from governments, I don't know what it is. You can see they fear it hard.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

So long as it's not about Tiananmem Square.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

but damn if it isn't extremely effective at sending information out of reach from governments

It's not particularly better at it than most other social media sites/apps

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago

This government is an absolute farce leading us straight to the victory of the far-right. Fuck them.