"The Climate Change Hoax" was the most poinant takeaway of the evening, alongside Pence getting fired up without mentioning Mother. It was a wild ride of bullshit with no real substance by a pack of propaganda clowns posing as candidates.
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They know their voters.
Their dwindling base
They’re all deeply delusional.
It was yet another canary in the coal mine for the GOP however -- the few young people who are Republicans are concerned about climate change and want serious action. The debate pretty much solidified the Republicans aren't going to do that, unless maybe they somehow nominate Haley.
republicans hated obama. why does Ramaswamy think any of those racist clowns would vote for him? Why is he even running for a party that despises him because he isn’t white?
Bobby Jindal learned this lesson too. Nikki Haley as well. They're token minorities the GOP tries to trot out when things are getting too white.
Piyush and Nimrata will never learn the lesson. They are true Republicans through and through. And would given an any opportunity, gladly shill for the party and against the interest of people like themselves.
He, like many other minorities, especially Asians unfortunately, think that of they just act a little more white, act a little more of that racist trope of the model minority that they'll be accepted by the racist whites.
Also, he's probably grifting.
I just assume all Republicans are grifting.
They are.
He's probably running for a cabinet position.
Worked for Buttigeg, Ben Carson and Rick Perry.
I honestly don't think he cares. I think it's more about being on TV, to be on TV more, to then turn the foolishness into paid appearances and hustle a podcast.
The same could be asked of Tim Scott.
Vivek thinks because he agrees with them that things will be different.
He's not trying to win. Most of them aren't. They're just fundraising.
You'd think after trump more people would be aware.... He was grifting from the start and might of never even thought he had a shot. The campaign donations are basically a slush fund they have access to for anything they can make a half ass excuse to use it for. Never pay for another flight, meal or hotel room in your life after one relevant primary state showing.
Money. No one will vote for him, but the party as a whole loves when minorities join them, and they'll throw cash at them to be to say, "See? We aren't all white so we can't be racist."
I'm assuming he's paid to be a candidate. No he will never win the primary but he's up there. Also I think they might be able to vote for a black guy, as long as he's able to go up there and say "there's no such thing as racism". I mean they did platform ben carson,
And put Thomas on the bench because he was 'one of the good ones'.
My takeaway is that half of our country is dumb as shit if they are considering voting for any of them. The denial of climate change should be game over considering the entire world is on fire around us.
Conservatives have been programmed to believe climate change is fake news.
Another way to say it is that they are dumb as shit. They make absolutely no effort to investigate issues themselves and instead rely on Fox to tell them what to think. It should be embarrassing to be that willingly ignorant but they have no shame.
I've seen ~~discount Kermit~~ Peterson try to pivot to the idea that climate change actually saves lives because more people die during winter. I wonder if he'd be willing to say that to the face of people who have lost everything because of the recent Hilary storm.
Did we watch the same debate? Ramaswamy said "climate change is a hoax" and the crowd erupted in boos and jeers.
I think the climate change reality is a shared belief now. The disagreement between parties is in how we handle it. Ramaswamy is nutty and is clinging to the hardest right talking points.
In a nutshell:
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Ramaswamy is a dollar-store Donald Trump (which alone should be saying something) that is banking his campaign on taking the most extreme and ridiculous right-wing position on any topic.
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DeSantis still is little more than badly programmed AI stuffed in a human body.
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Pence still has the personality and charisma of a wedge of cheese. Limburger, to be precise.
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Christie showed all the get-up-and-go of a car out of gas, and seems to be banking more on his own name recogintion than anything else.
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Burgum hobbled on crutches to the stage to basically say "Hey, I'm here! Guys? Guys!??!"
The others shouldn't have bothered showing up. And none of them seem to be really in touch with what their own voters want, let alone the public at large.
He has that Used Car Salesman scumminess to him.
Mike Pence made a much better showing, had dome good punches.
Overall no one from the GOP appears qualified for the job.
Overall no one from the GOP appears qualified for the job.
You needed to watch that shitshow to learn that? ^/s^
Reinforced my opinion.
Every Republican is a 1970’s sleazebag car salesman. Their children, who were on stage last night, really highlights why we shouldn’t have trust fund kids run ANYTHING important.
Pence has the personality and style of a human cigarette.
It was a scary god damn fascist shitshow where they told the American people if you're not a cis white male you will lose your civil rights and the harder you went fascist the bigger cheers you got.
And despite all of that, Trump still won the debate because the biggest cheers were from the extremists that prostrated themselves at the toadstool of Trump while Trump was going off on anothet unhinged, incomprehensible interview.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
And because he has positioned himself as a defender of Trump, Ramaswamy was, at times, a stand-in for the former president, who momentarily ceded the stage Wednesday night but will take it back Thursday when he turns himself in at the Fulton County jail in Georgia as he faces election subversion charges.
And at a key moment – when the candidates were asked to raise their hands if they would support Trump if he is convicted in a court of law – DeSantis peeked around the stage to see how everyone else had responded before he half heartedly put up his right palm.
He shared his biography – thrice mentioning his military service and talking repeatedly about his young family – an acknowledgment that voters may not yet know his story beyond the cultural clashes and Covid-19 policies that have made him a Republican star.
Nearly eight years ago, the former governor embarrassed Marco Rubio during the final debate before the New Hampshire primary by pointing out the Florida senator’s habit of repeating lines.
The optics didn’t help: Fox News showed a split screen of Christie standing silently as Ramaswamy grinned until the moderators asked the crowd to let him finish.
Haley, the former South Carolina governor and US ambassador to the United Nations under Trump, brought onto the stage Wednesday a message that was geared more directly for a general electorate than those of her rivals.
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Vote Republican if you want to invade Mexico.
Calgon, take them all away.
Looks like Trump will have to worry more about Vivek than DeSantis.
If they pick Trump they will never hear the end of it.