Anyone using Ubuntu is one person less using windows. I call that a win. Everyone has to start somewhere!
this post was submitted on 11 May 2024
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Windows is so dominant in the market that not using it is still named after them.
Jesus Christ this thread is full of people who don't realize they're the judging hipster in the post.
Ubuntu isn't the entry level distro that you move on from once you've gotten your feet wet, and your not very subtle pats on your own backs for using something different aren't earned.
Does it do everything the user needs from it? If so, don't tell them that they need to "graduate" to a "better" flavor.
for real. my uncle has been programmer his whole life and he was always the most linux guy I've known. I have never seen him use any other os. and yet he uses ubuntu. his own words are thar he doesn't care about all the bells and whistles that come trough distros like arch or gentoo. ubuntu works well enough for him and it's what he is used to, so he uses that.
using ubuntu defiently does not mean you're a noob or non-techy linux user. personally I wouldn't touch it again but the linux culture about arch being superior and others being for noobs is ridiculous
This 1000%. Since basically High School I've been on Ubuntu for the machines I need to work, because at the end of the day it usually does. Some of the people I meet see that I use a Chromebook with the containers enabled and have similar reactions. "How can you use that it's not even real Linux?", as if it isn't literally a Linux kernel. The Steam Deck is popular because you don't need to know Linux to use it, and Ubuntu is popular because you don't need to know a lot of Linux to use it.
Ironically I've tried installing Ubuntu a couple of times in the past, but for whatever reason it didn't work. I'm currently using Debian instead just because the install worked. No idea why, maybe my laptop is just weird.
I used Arch for years because I wanted to learn more about how linux works and it was a good way to push myself. I think it worked because I am better at problem solving now - I even read the error messages lol
For real I started on Ubuntu and nearly a decade later I still would be on Ubuntu if it wasn't for their migration to snaps with the proprietary back end.
All the linux makes me say "do what now?"
I just want to change the settings on my fan. It's been roughly 2 years.
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Everyone that I know that uses linux is using Ubuntu. I'm the wierdo using Debian
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Funny description came up about Linux this weekend from my father in law. He kept referring to Linux as an "aftermarket OS". First time I've heard it out like that, didn't bother responding tbh lol.
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Arch Linux user here to say... Ubuntu's fine, man. Love all the derivatives that can take advantage of the core Ubuntu system (e.g., Mint, which I've installed for family members).
I love Arch. I use it all the time. I will not inflict it on any family members.
And for those of us that love Arch but don't have time for it, EndeavourOS.
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I have used Ubuntu for years. I'm not a noob by any means, and would consider myself more advanced than most users. I used to love tinkering, but once I had a set of scripts built that set everything up just the way I like it on a new install, the need to tinker faded.
I have recently switched to Debian due to bloat and snaps, but I won't ever judge an Ubuntu user.
I use Ubuntu on my servers because it just... Works, out of the box I can run my scripts and have no issues 100% of the time. On desktops I used to use SolusOS for gaming as that was the only Linux OS at the time I could comfortably game on without many hiccups.
Yeah I started in the Red Hat 2 era, played with all the WMs and DEs, compiled my own kernel a few times. After a point I had too much going on in my life to tinker with my distro. My needs are simple, I just need a terminal and a package manager.
Snaps have issues sure, but anything is better than the dependency hell of old.
Use what works. It's really that simple.
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the problem with ubuntu is canonical, it's a shame it's got the reputation as "the third OS" when it's basically the only distro that's trying to replicate the walled gardens of microsoft and apple.
It's one rich dudes toy is how I see it. It's a good distro but once I tried to uninstall some things and it wouldn't let me and so that was the end of it for me at home. I use the server version at work for one machine.
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A friend of mine has been looking to upgrade his gaming rig since its pretty old and low budget. Still even has Windows 7!
The build he's looking at has Ubuntu. I'm excited to welcome him into the Linux community.
No, Apple gives off hipster vibes to the average PC user. Apple products are basically jewelry, you choose Apple products largely to be seen with them, so that when you slide that phone out of your pocket there's that Apple logo on it. So that your bubble is blue in iMessage. That's hipster shit.
The average PC user has never seen Linux running on a PC and doesn't understand what a "distro" is at all. Ubuntu and its default Gnome DE isn't as easily mistaken for Windows as KDE or Cinnamon is, so this one might spark the conversation a little faster, and "average" Windows users tend to compare Linux users of all stripes to vegans.
WIthin the Linux community, Until maybe 5 years ago Ubuntu had the "beginner OS" stank to it. "Start here until you're ready to edit xorg.conf like a real man." Canonical has been shifting away from "Linux for the masses" and more toward "Leveraging synergies" to the point that I straight-up recommend against Ubuntu for daily use as their Snap ecosystem has a lot of disadvantages for desktop users especially gamers. To me, Ubuntu is a radial arm saw, the wonder do-all death trap grampa won't shut up about that no one makes anymore. In the modern day, best practice is to forget they exist.
How is macOS hipster? Apple products are so damn popular.
Apple's core ethos is "be hip and trendy." They make electronics to be seen with, style before substance. That's 200% hipster shit.
Hmm idk man, anything that has ads playing everywhere 24/7 is not hipster, hipster is unknown, but stylish etc. Hipster is more trendsetter and macOS is not a trendsetter, itβs just a trend at this point. Anything pop by definition is not hipster.
To give a pithy example: macOS is to tech hipsters what hot topic is to goth hipsters
You're giving hipsters way more credit for originality than they have earned.
I didnβt invent the term lol, thatβs how itβs been used since whenever
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What is the best distro for gaming on Linux?
I can't argue with @[email protected] 's answer of "SteamOS running on the Steam Deck. Beyond that, on normal x86 gaming PC hardware? There isn't a meaningful answer. I have perfectly good luck gaming on Linux Mint. Others prefer Arch or its forks, some prefer Nobara which is on the Fedora family tree.
What's the best distro for gaming on Linux? The one that you keep installed.
Technically, steamOS because it's designed to play games and it's what the steam deck uses. That probably won't have many other non-gaming features though, and I've personally never used it. In my experience, you can get most games without a hyper-aggressive anti cheat working on any Linux distro with varying degrees of effort, just a matter of having all the needed libraries installed! The more popular distros like Ubuntu, popOS, Fedora, even Arch (btw) should have a lot of helpful information out there on how to get Lutris or Steam set up.
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The neck beards that judge someone's distro choice without knowing their use cases don't represent the Linux community. Just use the best tool for the job
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Fuckin love ubuntu despite knowing it's a cold take. How about that dogshit?
Oh snap
The snap infrastructure is indeed what some object to the most.
Im of the opinion that the distro is far less important than the Desktop Environment. Ubuntu only really "feels like Ubuntu" because of GNOME.
Most of what differentiates a distro from another is one of:
- package manager
- default packages/configurations (including the desktop environment)
- init system
The rest wellβ¦ itβs Linux.
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Correct me if I'm wrong,
but I have been disliking Ubuntu because they use:
- Proprietary pieces in their code
- Telemetry (spyware)
- Snap packages by default
And thats fine. You are entitled to your opinion, and your opinion is based on actual things.
As long as you don't denigrate and insult others for using it, or try to pretend you're the superior linux hackerman for not using it, You're all good.
Only linux newbies and weirdos hate on Ubuntu. It's a good all around operating system. Not the best choice and Canonical fails a lot but it's still a net good.
Ubuntu is a gateway drug. Its lickable Fisher-Price interface is easy to use for basic tasks like web browsing, email and so on, and the always present sidebar provides reassurance. Once users start chafing against the limitations, they can move to forks like Xubuntu, or all the way to Debian itself, or if they really want to get their hands dirty, Arch.
Or Ubuntu could perform every task they need it to and never switch to anything else.
Exactly.
Ubuntu is wide spread, well documented, and was the recommended distro for a lot of things (like steam) for a long time.
I used Ubuntu for a long time, I didnt grow up and move on or any hipster shit like that.. I simply moved to Nobara because it offered a better out of the box experience for me, a gamer, due entirely to all the gaming related stuff being installed as default, at start.
This weird need to feel superior to others over distro choice is weird, and kinda pathetic. Its just stupid and pathetic to be insulting and denigrating others over their distro choice.. And says a lot more about the pathetic nature of the person saying it, then anything they could type.
and yes, I said pathetic 3 times, because thats just how pathetic it is to be like that.
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My first Distro was OpenSuse. idk. even why anymore, but maybe already because of KDE. I just never got warm with Gnome and to me KDE feels easier to get a grasp off, when coming from windows.
I have a lot of love for OpenSuse. Back in my teenage years, I used it and Ubuntu a lot. zypper is the best package manager, and YaST made configuration easier since I didn't know config files yet.
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