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Mirror: https://files.catbox.moe/d8n67r.mp4

Aftermath: NSFL https://files.catbox.moe/avxngn.mp4

The passengers of Prigozhin’s plane are two of his closest associates and veterans of the Syrian Wagner campaign

The Federal Air Transport Agency has published a list of passengers who were allegedly on board the crashed plane of Yevgeny Prigozhin . We found out who they were.

✈️ Valery Chekalov is one of the Concorde managers closest to Prigogine. He oversaw all of Prigozhin's "civilian" projects abroad and was responsible for the logistical support of the Wagner group. It was Chekalov who headed JSC Neva, the founder of Euro Polis LLC, to which all Syrian and African projects were tied

✈️ Dmitry Utkin . Prigozhin's right hand in the Wagner PMC. Responsible for command and combat training.

✈️ Yevgeny Makaryan , call sign "Makar". Former precinct. He joined Wagner in March 2016 . He was part of the fourth Wagner assault detachment in Syria, which came under fire from American aircraft near Khsham in January 2017.

✈️ Sergey Propustin , call sign "Kedr", ensign. He joined Wagner in March 2015. He fought in the second reconnaissance and assault detachment. Prigozhin recruited many personal guards from there.

✈️ Alexander Totmin , callsign "Tot".

✈️ Nikolai Matuseev . We could not find a person with that name on the Wagner lists. But there is Nikolai Matusevich . At Wagner since January 2017. He served as a shooter in the fourth assault detachment in Syria.

Meanwhile, Prigozhin's wife Lyubov continues her long-planned vacation in India , says a Dossier source familiar with the family.

We do not know whether the information about the death of Yevgeny Prigozhin and Dmitry Utkin can be trusted. But if it is confirmed, it will mean that fewer and fewer people remain alive who are familiar with the circumstances of the murder of Russian journalists in the Central African Republic in 2019. We appeal to the employees of Prigozhin's "Company": if you know any details of the crime in the Central African Republic, contact the "Dossier" Center and tell your story. We will not be in debt.

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[-] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago

Oh, THAT'S what air defense doing.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Dammit you beat me to this joke hahaha

[-] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

A bomb is much, much more efficient than a missile. I’d be very surprised if a missile was used. Also, it would be unlikely for both him and Utzin to be on the same plane, for exactly this reason.

It’s going to be hard to unpack all these rumors for a few days unless we see a living Utzin or Prigozhin soon. A strong possible narrative here would be Utzin selling out his boss in exchange for amnesty, in which case it behooves him to disappear.

Edit: notice we don’t see a missile exhaust trail to the aircraft and a burst pattern for one in the start of the video. With the war on, there are plenty of videos showing a missile strike on an aircraft to compare to.

[-] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The smoke trail on the left at the start of the video was reported to be from the missile. There are a few photos that claim to show damage from an S-300 missile. However, I've heard rumors about a box of wine that was gifted to them before takeoff, and another about unusual plane maintenance.

I've updated the title to reflect the current level of uncertainty.

Also this:

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Okay with the last picture I’m upping my suspicion of a rocket a bit more.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

a box of wine

You mean, like, Franzia?

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

The Wagner group confirmed the information

[-] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

New rumor: its possible Prigozhin wasn’t actually on the plane.

Apparently he frequently registers for one plane, then boards another one, for personal security reasons.

Sources

Masto: https://nafo.uk/@hanse_mina/110940183602758010

Telegram: https://t.me/bbbreaking/163418

[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

It'll be interesting to see how the Russian military tries to save face if he survived.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Off the top of my head: prigozhin crashed his own plane so he could blame it on us. Seems like something they would do

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

The Wagner group confirmed he was killed

[-] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

Well now isn't this surprising news that nobody could have seen coming lol

[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

I figured he was going to be killed but my bet was on the old "fell from a window"

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Yep truns out a missile up the old exhaust pipe on landing is real bad for your health

[-] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

Would not have been his pilot after the mutiny.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

Well that gives new meaning to “ falling out of a window”.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

"The Ruzzians are evolving, now they're pushing planes out of windows!"

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago
[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

"In Soviet Russia window fall out of you"

[-] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

What an obscene country. With every breath it takes, it spews out regressiveness, barbarism.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

@Wilshire We do not know if the monster is dead. It was on the passenger list, but we don't know if it actually was on the plane.
Prigozhin might have staged it. I don't know how likely that is. Even if his corpse gets identified by the russian liars - do we believe this? Let's wait and get more information.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Yes, he's "reportedly" dead, but we may never know since his body was burned. I thinks it's 50/50.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

What would be the point of staging it? I'm not denying that there is a possibility, just don't see a reason for him to do it

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

If people think you are dead, you've got better chances of not falling out of a window.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

How did Prigozhin not see something like this coming?

[-] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

It is my understanding that missiles fly at a high rate of speed and are difficult to see as they approach.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

And remember from the missile's perspective:

The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is (whichever is greater), it obtains a difference, or deviation. The guidance subsystem uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the missile from a position where it is to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is, is now the position that it wasn't, and it follows that the position that it was, is now the position that it isn't.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Do we know how the wagnerites are reacting ?

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago
[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

To shreds you say, tsk tsk tsk. Well, how’s his wife holding up?

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Also to shreds

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Prigo: I’m ready to die

Poot: k

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

All Ukraine needs is one insider to let intelligence know poo man’s movements. Then pop goes the poo man. Do the world a favour and make him fall out a window already.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

And nothing of value was lost

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

How can you tell whose plane it is?

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago
[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

OK thanks, it looks like it was confirmed by multiple sources. Now about who shot it down: are we sure it was Russian military?

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