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[–] [email protected] 61 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Letting him run will result in him being president or him attempting a coup.

There is no other option if we let him run. There will be carnage one way or another. He has made this abundantly clear.

If we throw his ass in jail, we can easily quell the MAGA crowd's attempt at some kind of response to that.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

To even question this is fucking stupid. He didn't even agree with the results of the election he won!

Are people this amnesiac? Are microplastics destroying our brains?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago

Yes and yes

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

He can still run for president from prison. It has been done before.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Run? Sure, but can he be inaugurated and serve from prison!? That would be a first...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Attempting a coup is much harder with an opponent on the executive branch. The only reason the last one was close was because Trump was sandbagging the response. The only way one succeeds now is if the military facilitates the coup, aggressively, IMO.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Tbf, that was the case when he's president, too.

Our commanding officers protect the constitution, not the president or any person.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

True. Sadly, no chance of that.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Since the excerpt here is cut off,

In an interview with the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, the former president said he would accept the results of the November election showing he lost "if everything's honest."

"If everything's honest, I'd gladly accept the results," Trump said in an interview Wednesday. "If it's not, you have to fight for the right of the country.

"But if everything's honest, which we anticipate it will be — a lot of changes have been made over the last few years — but if everything's honest, I will absolutely accept the results," he said.

So in trump terms, honest = he wins, dishonest means he didn't.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Same as it was in 2016 and 2020. This isn't really news anymore.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Yeah, it's exactly what he said last time.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago (1 children)

What if he wins through dishonesty? Is he going to concede if he finds out his base was cheating?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

He'd be disappointed if he found out they hadn't cheated.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

This loser is beyond pathetic. He's the fakest fuck I've ever seen in my life. And it's so glaringly obvious. How could anyone look at this deteriorated weak delusional coward and see a strong truthful leader?

The manchild has never once admitted his fuckups, failings, losses, or shortcomings. That's a major red flag. Real men do. This emotionally stunted toddler can't and isn't. He's a silver spoon terrified child trapped in a bloated dying brain scrambled corpse.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago

The manchild has never once admitted his fuckups, failings, losses, or shortcomings. That's a major red flag. Real men do. This emotionally stunted toddler can't and isn't.

They're voting for a reflection of themselves.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Preach.

When this fucker's diet finally catches up with him, Satan himself will make a personal trip up from Hell to collect him. A bigger catch than John Constantine.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

Dad says he doesn't want him, someone else can take him

[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

How did it ever become relevant whether the loser accepts the result?
The result should obviously be decided by a non corrupt competent body, oh... never mind.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

It is relevant in that the loser is the elected nominee for his party and has many people who look up to him and follow his lead. If the loser accepts his defeat gracefully, the people who look up to him are more likely to accept the results and less likely to cause trouble. It doesn’t matter who decides the results and how non-corrupt they are if a corrupt loser sows doubt in the results and makes his followers think they have been cheated, particularly when the majority of his party joins in instead of ostracizing him for being a liar.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

Exactly, Republicans are all in on the violence, or they wouldn't nominate him. They know what he is, and they like it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

Fuck Trump

  • Wisconsinite who will be voting in November
[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Another 60 failed lawsuits still won't make you the winner, moron.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

He's already using the language to foment a coup, like last time, telling people they have to fight.

"If everything's honest, I'd gladly accept the results," Trump said in an interview Wednesday. "If it's not, you have to fight for the right of the country.

Plus, the Supreme Court is entertaining the idea he's above the law.

Don't take anything for granted.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

This time, Biden is the incumbent. He would act immediately if they decide to try another insurrection. The only time I've ever seen police use less lethal weapons on a crowd properly was on January 6, 2021. Every other time, including current college protests, these weapons are being aimed directly at people in the crowd. These weapons can and do fucking kill people or maim them when aimed directly at them, which is why you aren't supposed to fucking do that!

January 6, 2025 will not be as interesting, thankfully. Lord I hope this comment doesn't age like milk...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Tell me what you do if 80,000 angry people show up. You can't arrest them all while they're trying to beat the officers to death, so that basically leaves crowd control measures, and as a last line, lethal force.

If a substantial portion of them have gas masks, we're basically skipping straight to lethal force unless acoustic crowd control is more effective than I currently believe.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

If that happens, the magoos would have brought them on themselves and have no one to blame but themselves.

I do wonder if some of the newer nonlethal options might be something they keep at the ready (such as directed energy weapons, LRAD) if they want to avoid having to shoot a lot of domestic terrorists.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

I think Biden's admin should maybe take donnie's lawyer's argument to heart and push the boundaries of what is acceptable, by having donnie arrested and thrown in Gitmo.

Then, let it wind through the courts while he sits in prison. Let it get the same slow-walk that all things donnie get up until now. How long has it been since donnie and his conspirators goaded on an insurrection while also plotting a coup to steal an election with their fake elector plot? I say donnie could sit in prison at least that long.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

As long as others are in power that will certify the results in an orderly and legal fashion, I don't give a flying fuck what this awful person says about it.

I cannot wait to see him sink into total irrelevancy. Same thing for any of his bootlicks, or would-be bootlicks. I look forward to the day when I don't have to care what any of them think about anything.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Does anyone see, or expect, a change in his behavior, other than becoming more extreme and delusional?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Nope, but if he does get elected (by the EC), I expect the media to (again) start up with nonsense about how he's going to pivot, any day now, into being "presidential" and also tone-policing everyone about how everyone has to "respect the office", be "civil" and so on.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Guess what Donny, no one gives a shit if you choose to accept reality or not.