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[VOTE] Only donors should be allowed to vote. (sh.itjust.works)
submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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I have seen many a democratic initiative ruined by trolls, bot accounts, duplicate accounts, and assholes. The best way to ensure that democracy doesn't spiral into Haiti is to allow only financial contributors of $5 or more to vote (once the boss man has his contributions system up and running). You want to help build this community? OK, then put your money where your mouth is. To be clear, it should still be one vote per person, whether you donate $5 or $500.

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[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Fantastic idea, money being involved in democracy has always worked out to benefit the average person.

Fuck the poors, they should have no voice in our community. What, you can't afford the price of a cup-a-coffee? Begon.

First vote afterwards? This is now a paid instance. I don't even want to see those plebs.

True democracy. Only ~~land owners~~ paying members^tm^ can vote

aye

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I would like to add a second level of financial support to allow downvotes, say $10, an invisible downvote for $20, and a special Gold Star vote that you can buy individually which is also worth ten upvotes. Of course, if we implement Gold Stars I would like a FullOfShit award as well and a SilentButDeadly award which isn't shown but resets the counter to -1 any time the vote would otherwise go positive.

Let make kbin a place just like the real world - where money buys influence!

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Nay...optional donate to vote. I will be donating, but not everyone who deserves a vote will necessarily be.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Nay - no paywalls. This server should survive because its a nice place, not because people pay money to have a day in its operation.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Nay

Also wtf

The best way to ensure that democracy doesn’t spiral into Haiti

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Nay, This essentially turns this instance into an oligarchy. I don't think other instances are going to appreciate this type of governance either.

Also, nothing stops trolls and bad actors from donating the bare minimum a thousand times to get a thousand voices. This would mean a high minimum investment should be required, which further hurts the common user.

I believe that a shitty/troll opinion has an artificial majority, the real users will catch on and act accordingly, however we still have to see an example of this.

I'm also certain that privacy people would rather not risk money transfers, cash or whatever (crypto is a whole other discussion).

In short, I think requiring payment, or proof of identity, or any other de-anonymizing measures would hurt discussion by excluding genuine users, even if it allows more trolls that would be ignored/dealt with by genuine users.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Nay

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Nay

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Nay, I feel there has to be some better way to go about it than paywalling it. Maybe based on account age and contribution.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Nay

I don't want to associate my account with my money, and enforcing this would require that. I prefer to donate anonymously.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Nay, this idea is fundamentally against the values of this instance.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Nay, paywalled democracy isn't democracy.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Nay, but I also get where you are coming from. Maybe alternatively have it be based on contributions? Like having at least x comments over the past y weeks. That way you only need to be an active member of the community.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

yes, definitely. account age and activity are alternatives. but those can very easily be faked in larger communities. the only thing that shuts the trolls and bots down 100% is a fee. but everyone is unanimously voting against, i hope history proves me wrong

this post was submitted on 19 Jun 2023
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