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started HRT in January of 2022, is it safe to say all major changes are done, and I'll always kinda look ugly and there is nothing HRT can do.

Also sorry I made a similar post where I had the years wrong I think.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Absolutely not. I'm in my 3rd year and my face didn't atart constantly looking femme to me till about 2.5 years in. There's many more changes that come later! Cis-femme puberty starts roughly around 12 and goes until 25-ish!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

No, that's not entirely true. Most cis women are fully developed at around 18.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The terms "fully developed" and "most" are doing some legwork there. Puberty begins and ends at different times for everyone and statistical averages have been shown to change over time.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah that's true, and puberty's been starting earlier and earlier for AFABs in the past decade or two. If it's starting earlier then it's easy to assume it's ending earlier too. The average age for puberty to start is 10, and the average duration of puberty is five to six years. 25 is not a normal number to still be physically maturing at for AFABs. Not saying it's not possible, but it's definitely not the norm. 10-16 is a more accurate number for the majority.

To clarify, when I say physically maturing I mean the development of secondary sex characteristics, which is what puberty is typically associated with.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Given the specificity of that definition I also would say that 25 would be abnormal for a person assigned male at birth to be undergoing puberty. Most everyone is done the development of secondary sex characteristics by 18 at the latest. But how your body hormonally develops doesn't just stop at some arbitrary point. Your secondary sex characteristics will fluctuate a lot between 20 and 30. Some factors more than others, but I don't think most people would consider their bodies fully developed at 18. I don't have a statistical basis for that, just subjective experience myself and with those around me. My testosterone based puberty was for all intents and purposes done at 16, but my body did go on to change significantly even after that point.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

If you are talking about just secondary sexual characteristics then sure but people do still continue to mature physically. Just look at people when they were 18 and are now 25

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

You could argue that maturation never ends since we are perpetually aging. Usually one thinks of puberty as the development of secondary sex characteristics.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

This might help (it's a reputable medical trans health organization) - scroll down to "Effects and expected time course ": https://www.rainbowhealthontario.ca/TransHealthGuide/gp-femht.html

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I think this is more dysmorphia than dysphoria. The good news is that all women feel this, many just as strongly as you. I would look into resources for women with body dysmorphia. The strength of the dysmorphia isn't tied to how attractive the person actually is. Plenty of supermodels and attractive actors get convinced that everyone is lying about them being hot. Your self view is unreliable right now. A big part of dealing with dysmorphia is making that view more grounded.