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Is Reddit just a liberal recruitment zone?
If you cannot exist in spaces displaying different political opinions without feeling affected you either are a child and therefore easily molded or the ideas speak to you on a fundamental level. If neither is true then you can just ignore it, no?
Straight up denying genocides or claiming absurd things is not βdisplaying different political opinionsβ thought.
rather than leaving the platform, find or host yourself an instance that blocks the tankie instances... I'm loving sh.itjust.works so far, which blocks lemmygrad.ml - that's the beauty of federation
tfw kbin doesn't block any instances and just watching the drama of different instances block each other πΏ
the ml in lemmy.ml stands for Marxist-Leninist...
Oh wow someone finally explained it! Thanks!
it was more of a joke but... yeah I think that might actually have been the intent lol
It unfortunately is very much the intent, but they don't want to say that up front because no one would join.
Well itβs not like theyβre based in Mali. Had to have been intentional for that reason.
alternatively: they're just really into machine learning
I consider myself a centrist. I think Leninists and Maoists both have good ideas. :)
The way things are on there I can't even tell if this is just a joke.
Keep politics in political subs.
Yeah, it's a bit of a conundrum. Lemmygrad is the most egregious part of it and easy to block thankfully.
But I agree with some of the other posters that lemmy.ml is still pretty bad in terms of what gets allowed and who gets modetated. Luckily, this still is not an unsolvable problem in a federated world. Of course lemmy.ml could also just be blocked, but many instances will probably be reluctant to do that, as it also hosts some of the bigger communities currently. But we can make an effort to prioritize non lemmy.ml communities over their counterpart, a different meme community over [email protected] etc, and if consensus is strong enough and enough communities shift, lemmy.ml could theoretically find itself in a position where it will have to clean up their moderation practices or risk wider defederation.
lemmy.ml is federated with most other instances (yes, including lemmygrad.ml). I would say the content on lemmy.ml is pretty indicative of the norm across the fediverse. my feed is diverse enough to remain interesting to me without many extreme examples of any sort.
various instances will have different vibes and different local content. find instances that you jive with and you are golden. if those instances generally play nice with the network at large, then their content will be available widely. if not, then just center your experience around the local content on those instances.
federation makes.the best of all worlds avaliable to you.
i mean its literally .ml so im not sure exactly what you were expecting? except for most of the reddfugees being directed there, the core demographic is tankies. just use an instance more alligned with your values instead; i use slrpnk.net because well im an Anarcho-Solarist.
and if the tankie content really impacts your enjoyment of lemmy, just block offending users or communities.
What does the Republic of Mali, in Africa, have to do with a mostly Asian ideology?
Yeah it's the TLD for Mali. But I imagine Lemmy Devs chose it for Marxism-Leninism. The same way .io is for the British Indian Ocean Territory but is heavily used by tech companies.
I think that top level domain was free. So a little column A, a little column B.
Man I would have never guessed that, thanks mate.
What am I missing, why is .io desirable for tech companies?
Input/Output
i mean its literally .ml so im not sure exactly what you were expecting?
fairly sure that isn't as obvious for most people as you think it is
People as deep into the ideology as people on here are think the dog whistles are signposts.
i mean its literally .ml so im not sure exactly what you were expecting?
Machine learning
I'm on another instance but it's making me rather uncomfortable that a lot of the traffic is happening on an instance that seems like it's 90 CCP members and Russian trolls.
yeah thas just the consequence of that instance being linked in a lot of exodus posts... not much we can change but i assume itll equalize out as lemmy grows and people spread out to other instances. ofc that a lot of the communities are on .ml sucks but that too may change with future developments such as multi-community implementations.
Reddit had a huge amount of tankies that only lived on a handful of isolated subreddits.
It makes sense that they'd flock to the Lemmy where the FDQN literally stands for Marxist/Leninist.
Reddit had a huge amount of tankies that only lived on a handful of isolated subreddits.
I don't know about others but this hasn't been my experience. From what I've noticed a lot of left or left-leaning subreddits have been taken over by tankie mods.
I'm much happier with how kbin/lemmy/mastodon/etc work, at least this way I can choose my left/hard-left/left-leaning communities that I wish to interact with without them being controlled by tankies or other authoritarian flavors.
Is lemmy.ml just a tankie recruitment zone?
Yes. Check out the comments on this meta post. They ban people for "orientalism" and "sinophobia," meaning "talking poorly about China." I was banned because I criticised the Lemmy developer and owner of Lemmy.ml, Dessalines, for denying the Uyghur genocide. Check out the exchange below. You'll notice that many of the comments and users support China, claim no genocide is occurring, deny the Tiananmen Square Massacre, and even claim China is a democracy. Dessalines has been curating a communist community over there for years. He's just careful to hide that during signup.
That said, just because one instance is terrible doesn't mean all other instances are terrible. kbin.social is awesome. Lemmy.world is awesome. There are lots of instances you can interact with which have nothing to do with communism.
Dude just straight whataboutism'd mass rape. Christ, did I dodge a bullet.
Do you have a screenshot of them denying the Tiananmen Square Massacre? I'm not saying that they did not say that, I'm just curious what amount of gymnastics does it take to deny that.
Sadly not, but they removed this comment of mine four days ago, which discussed the TSM. You can find it in the modlog (lemmy.ml/modlog).
Removed Comment > "China has 1.4 billion people. Do you really think they have the ability and/or need to βsquashβ protests and prevent any protest from ever happening? No. They have a healthy democracy where people are involved in voicing their opinions, and protesting if it ever comes to that. Please stop ingesting so much xenophobic propaganda and learn more about the countries of which you speak." [quote text of the user to which I was replying]
First, China literally "squashed" hundreds of protesting students in the Tiananmen Square massacre in 1989. I encourage you to read the harrowing accounts of survivors about how the military used tanks to grind bodies into the ground and then hose them into the sewers. Secondly, China is currently committing ethnic genocide of millions of Uyghur Muslims in Xinjiang. Lastly, China isn't a democracy. Elections in China occur under a political system controlled by the Chinese Communist Party (CCP), with all candidate nominations pre-approved by the CCP. CCP regulations require members of the People's Congresses, People's Governments, and People's Courts to implement CCP recommendations (including nominations). It blows my mind to find someone who speaks so confidently about something they know so little. If you're so confident in your proposition, why don't you fly over to China and try a little protest about Xi. I've been to China many times. They made the rules clear to me: if I involved myself in anything political I was liable for life in prison or even execution. by @JasSmith
As others have said, come join us in kbin land :) There are some other kbin instances listed here on the project website if you want to sign up on one other than the main instance: https://kbin.pub/en
I just opened up user registrations on mine yesterday so it hasn't been added to that page yet.
I say come give it a try! It's cool that kbin has lemmy + kbin + mastodon integration. Kind of a one stop hub for all the content. I'm hoping down the line we can get matrix integration and some other fediverse stuff.
You can join /kbin. I joined kbin over Lemmy after researching the creators. From kbin, you can still interact with Lemmy instances but you wonβt be on a platform owned by tankies.
Well, I guess we should consider it as one of the trials of freedom. Either you live in a walled garden, or you have to be conscious about what you're interacting with and exercise critical thinking. If you don't want to be associated with genocide supporters - don't register on tankie instances, or even don't subscribe to any content from them. It should be a personal decision of every user (or instance maintainer for that matter - defederation is also an option, simply because instance maintainers are also people).
Another important thing is to speak up about it - to raise awareness, so to speak. It's perfectly reasonable to state what the worldview of tankie admins is - in threads like this, as well as on other platforms. I was considering lemmy.ml as Reddit replacement at first, but saw a comment on one of the Fediverse sites and digged more into this.
The best recruitment are liberals hyping up how we're a bunch of genocidal maniacs only for users to see that is utter bullshit. So please, keep screeching about tankies. It's free advertisement for us and also amusing to watch anticommunists (inb4 tankies are't real communists) make fools of themselves.
