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Well i started my B tech course this year, I am looking for a laptop for my use case. I am using linux as a main os for 3 years.

The laptop which i currently use is a Dell Inspiron N5110. Its a pretty old machine so i am currently looking for an upgrade.

Things which I do :

  1. Read documents
  2. Watch videos and listen to music
  3. Light coding
  4. Tinker with almost everything
  5. Try new software if i can.

I REALLY need a a laptop with good cooling and battery life like 5 hours is fine.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Just don't get a modern HP laptop, or any old ones for that matter. They're crap (personal experience). If you are not planning on playing modern AAA games then probably an older thinkpad would do. A friend of mine has an upgraded X1 Carbon gen 1, but i recommend something a little bit more modern for your usecases. I don't know about battery life tho.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

They go above the budget

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't plan on an HP or Dell. I have had the worst experiences with them. ThinkPad even if refurbished come for a higher price than $ 600 here.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Where do you live? Where i live, i can pick up old thinkpads for maybe around 200 euro.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You can get prices like that only in the first world countries, sadly

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

That thing is worthless

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

refurbished thinkpad or dell xps. (buying something like a business model could save you money on the long run, because you'll be able to service the laptop later on. Instead of owning one of the new cheap consumer electronics that has everything soldered on and glued shut. And is generally made more cheaply.) Make sure to save enough money to afford a replaceḿent battery. The second hand one won't be at 100% capacity any more.)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No Dell pls. I do know that but I would like something a bit more updated.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My recommendation would be a Thinkpad

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

eBay has many used ThinkPads at pretty cheap prices. If I were you I'd look for one with a recent-ish AMD Ryzen 5 or Ryzen 7. Look for CPUs with model numbers in the format 4xxx or 5xxx. And try to get 16GB of RAM if you can.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Only Intel is there in my area.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Preowned ThinkPad. You can get a 2018 or so X1 Carbon for $400 or less on eBay.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

T480 is a decent machine. Had one for work (embedded dev) for three years.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then I mean a later year because my girlfriend and I each own X1s from around that time which we bought on eBay. Mine, I believe, was listed as a 2018. Hers is a year newer. So those figures might need budged but I do not mean a T480.

Unless you're just recommending a T480 over an X1, in which case, I apologize for stepping all over your punchline.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah x1 are slightly pricey

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

ThinkPads are generally pretty good. Got mine for ~£450 on eBay and it's got ridiculous specs for that price (4k display, discrete GPU, 2 nvme slots, 32gb of ram and an 8 core 3.6ghz i7)

I think it lasts about 5 hours of light use on Linux but like many ThinkPads you can swap out the battery so bringing a spare charged battery with you is an option if need be

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What kind of spec is that ?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (8 children)

i dont really know about laptops but maybe get a used or refurbished one?
at least two people around me buyed refurbished ones and had no problem

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

A used framework laptop

Or a used MacBook pro, don't spend more then $200.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well can't get them in my area. Those would be my first pick if I could.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Check out Swappa.com for a used laptop.... Got a very good deal on a thinkpad. Almost any laptop will work for what you do except for tinkering with almost everything which is kind of hard to define... Just avoid the Google Chromebooks

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ok probably your best option is a used Thinkpad, or maybe a Chromebook with the Chromebook distro, but if you want to do something crazy you could try the Pinebook Pro. It's a 14" arm laptop that comes with debian for $220. You might need some accessories, but it would still be <$400 for something new and interesting. However, it's a bit slow, and arm doesn't have as much software support. I think it could do everything a CS student needs, except browsing may be slow because web apps are so absurdly big and complicated now. Definitely would get more than 5 hours of battery.

https://www.pine64.org/pinebook-pro/

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You do know that college students use heavy dev apps right

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Skill issue, I finished a CS degree with vim

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago
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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe the new StarLabs StarLite. The CPU isn't the best but maybe it can do what you want.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

https://linuxpreloaded.com/ has a lot of linux compatible laptop-vendors.

Dunno where you are, so can't recommend a specific laptop. Guessing from your currency I'd guess NA and looking at linux-preloaded, boy are there few options from non-oligopoly vendors in NA :/ And what the fuck are those prices in NA? Laptops with 16GB for 3kCAD? Bruh.

You might have to shell out money to a corp that cares little for linux. Maybe these guys have a good list of affordable laptops https://laptopmountain.com/collections/linux

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Im in India and for 16 GB will come in the price but the processor would be like a pentium.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People may not like the idea, but you can get pretty decent laptops from AliExpress for like 250$, which was like 50% of the price of a similar laptop from any local sales channel at the time. I did buy one for my son when he entered university and it still runs well: 5-6 hours battery life, 8 MB RAM, some older generation core i7 inside, full HD screen. The touchpad and keyboard are not great, but after 3 years they still work. The specs today would be better, I guess.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

8 mb ? And I do type a lot I mean a lot.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

8GB of course, and a 256 GB SSD if my memory serves me well -_-'

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The keyboard is something I abuse on all my things including my phone so ...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If you have the money to spare and are based in the US, you could look at System76 laptops. They all have the latest hardware and coreboot. POP!_OS will allow you to do everything on that list for 7+ hours since you can install a foreign package manager like Guix, Nix, and Homebrew for all your tinkering needs and use flatpak for graphical applications.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They don't come to my region

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That's a shame. Lenovo is your next best bet. If you are in Europe I would recommend Slimbook or Tuxedo.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You can try getting a laptop online under the name of any business of yours or you friends. That way you can save upto 30% on tax savings. Here is an HP probook i found online for 50k with amd hardware
https://www.amazon.in/HP-ProBook-445-G8-Notebook/dp/B0C49C3W9X/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?crid=1ODQOVM2ZTW8U&amp;keywords=hp+probook&amp;qid=1692637046&amp;sprefix=hp+probook%2Caps%2C240&amp;sr=8-4

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Maybe buys something that you can expand in the future by adding extra RAM, replace the storage and exchange the battery. A lot of the modern laptops don't allow you to do any of those (planned obsolescence?). I know older ThinkPads are a good option but I think newer models are less serviceable. In Linux you can use tlp to tune up your battery usage and reduce the power consumption to the bare minimum. I would also recommend a second-hand ThinkPad, but just check if it is upgradeable.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Search on Flipkart, there's a few good laptops there. Don't know if they are full Linux compatible.

Take a look at this MSI Core i5 12th Gen - (16 GB/512 GB SSD/Windows 11 Home/4 GB Graphics/Arc A370M Intel ARC/144 Hz) Thin GF63 12HW-012IN Gaming Laptop on Flipkart

With points and a 1000 off coupon it comes in your budget.

I think you need to do something to make the GPU drivers work. See this reddit thread.

Try running Linux os live usb on it and see if everything works. If you use Linux Mint, i think you need to install kernel 6.2 since it's still on 5.xx kernel now.

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