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[–] [email protected] 96 points 6 months ago (3 children)

“I’ve often thought ‘I wish I could give these folks another $10 or $20 because it was worth more than my initial $70 and they didn’t try to nickel and dime me every second,’”

You know what, I could agree with that opinion if the irony wasn't lost to folks

No. One. Would tip for a blizzard game.

  1. Blizzard DOES nickel and dime you at every second. Literally.

  2. Blizzard has not produced a good game since Overwatch 2.

  3. Blizzard made 8.71 Billion in 2023. They can afford to pay their developers without relying on public donations.

[–] [email protected] 76 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Blizzard has not produced a good game since Overwatch 2

I think you meant Overwatch. O2 seems universally hated. Rated "overwhelming negative" (17%) on Steam.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Blizzard stopped making good games way before that.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Pong was the last good game, everything since then is garbage /s

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Pong was trash. Nothing has ever topped Tennis for Two.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago

They haven't made a good game since wrath of the litch king.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

People only play Overwatch 2 because they deleted the vastly superior original so they could squeeze out more money.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

No doubt. Same with CS.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Pretty sure they meant to say Warcraft 3 was the last good blizz game.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That game was good mostly because of the modders who made Wintermaul, DOTA, Sheep Tag, etc... The base game had dated graphics even on release.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Very true, but only the fact that the game had such an incredible and easy to use map editor was the reason this was possible.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Overwatch wasn't good either.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You're entitled to your opinion, but it was a very popular and well-loved game by many. O2? Not so much.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

If overwatch was so good why didn't they make overwatch 2 good

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (5 children)
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[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Because it was made as an excuse to fully transition to a f2p business model. It wasn't a game anyone was asking for and the only way they could get people to use it over the first one was by shutting the first one down. It was their way of pushing enshitification.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

I don't think he's saying to tip for a Blizzard game. He's not at Blizzard anymore (probably still has stock though).

I basically agree, I mean, I'd tip for a game I really like. Actually I do, indirectly. I buy other things from companies like FromSoft. I would go further than you and admit I agree with him despite the irony.

[–] [email protected] 70 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Is dragging what happens before someone else slams them?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 months ago (2 children)

It comes after getting "blasted" I would assume.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Which of course precedes being KERBLOOIED!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Let's hope no one gets wrecked

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago

I would assume after. They’re already down, after all.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 6 months ago

What, don’t you have phones?

[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 months ago

Sure, put it out for free and I'll donate the same as I do for any open source software I use.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I'd tip the developers, but not the shareholders or execs who treat the developers like slaves...

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Nah man. Tipping has its place and it’s not to take the place of regular payment for goods. Developer makes a product, I’ll buy it like a product.

Expanding the scope of tipping is not good.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Tipping is a exploitive behavior used to underpay staff with a high variance system. Employers need to pay a living wage.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago

If there's a need for tips, your business model sucks and you should be ashamed of yourself.

If there's no need for tips, you could just take some of your perverted bonuses or some of that ridiculous amount of money you take out of children's pockets with micro transactions and show those people some love who did the actual work, you prick. They make millions and millions for you.

What a world we live in where asshats like that step forward and ejaculate their greed into the world and expect applause!

Disgusting.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago

Blizzard is such a disgusting company nowdays. They don't even try to hide it.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I think the concept of "Pay what you want." is a very friendly approach to this. It already exists on platforms like itch.io and some free to play games financed through donations, like Dwarf Fortress, also became extremely popular. Humble Bundles are also pretty famous for this. And of course kickstarters do something a bit similar to this.

Personally I'd love to see donation buttons/infos especially for all the free music and games that exist out there. But I want to make sure my donations reach the people who actually worked on it, so I dislike products like paypal or patreon where a portion of the money goes to men in the middle and their managers/owners, etc. A bank account number or something along those lines where I can transfer money a bit more directly would be nice, but some creators only provide paypal buttons, so I won't donate.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 6 months ago (2 children)

He's not talking about donations though, he's talking about paying full price THEN tipping. It's a blatant excuse to pay developers less while placing financial guilt on the people paying for the product. It's the same way tipping at a restaurant works.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Worse, since if you tip through the game you're almost certainly just giving that money to the execs

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Like they said, exactly like tipping at a restaurant.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

That's where work contracts can help. Any form of tipping and how it is split would have to be handled by a contract anyway.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I think the concept of "Pay what you want." is a very friendly approach to this.

Very "friendly" but not even a little profitable.

You would have to at least have a base minimum purchase price and then accept tips on top.

And to be honest, I'd be all for that. But there's no way any distribution platform would allow that. They want their cut of every dollar.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The dorf fort devs made like $3k-6k per month throughout the 2010s. They did end up going commercial to get more. But it was hardly "not even a little profitable." I mean, I'd take that deal to do what I love too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I'm aware of that and also see the problem, but argue that that's partially because most people just aren't used to this. People's actions depend a lot on what they consider the norm. Take waiters or other service people as an example - in some cultures it's usual to tip them, in others it's unusual or even frowned upon.

You would have to at least have a base minimum purchase price and then accept tips on top.

That's also fine. If the initial price were lower than other comparable games then I assume that more people could be convinced to tip. Or even just if a company is very open about their work / income and dedicated to communicating to their players. I think there's already some companies like that, though perhaps not necessarily the big ones.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago

They can take the tip of my dick

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I think all CEO's should create some sort of tip platform.

They do so much single handedly for the company, most companies could simply not exist or have any direction without them and their leadership.

And to make things worse they aren't appreciated and are hardly compensated.

Imagine having to go to lunches at fancy golf courses, trips with your peers to exotic locations, all for a measly few hundred million per year?

CEO's are almost being mistreated and borderline persecuted infront of us, and all they want is to be treated and compensated fairly like the average worker with 3 jobs.

Maybe if we all come together and show them that we care , and more importantly, send them as much of our money as we can, then they will feel better about their terrible circumstances.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

How about shareholders tip me instead?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago
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