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Remember all the people saying we shouldn't vote for Biden because of what's happening in Gaza? It's literally all over this website.
This is the alternative. Vote in November.
This is disgusting. I hope this guy gets voted out.
Unsurprisingly the "genocide Joe" crowd never comments on articles like this when Republicans say or do stupid shit. I'm looking at you @linkerbaan
Likely not. His constituents are nutters.
Well, both sides still look the same to me...
Edit: y'all sarcasm detectors clearly need calibrating.
I think it's because on lemmy a large portion of active people are saying those things non sarcastically so my initial reaction was OK another one of these chuckle heads who scream genocide Joe and both sides! You have to put a /s because that's the world we live in now
I'm so fucking embarrassed for my state right now.
This makes two assbag comments just in the past three days.
Most of us here really are rational, normal people.
I once considered myself an Independent voter who could go with either a Democrat or a Republican. Republicans are making it very easy these days to call myself a Democrat.
If I was on the governing committee of a major political party, I'd be funding trips to places like Hiroshima and Auschwitz for members of our party that are running for office for the first time, not for the photo op, but so that maybe they can get some fucking perspective and not say batshit stupid things that make us look like a bunch of genocidal racists.
Idk, just a thought. Assuming that "genocidal racists" isn't a significant voting demographic that you are trying to appeal to.
No narcissism epidemic in America. Nope. Not at all.
I expected it to be the same guy who called a basketball team a bunch of illegals, but it's not the same person. Are all Michigan reps this dumb? Just asking questions.
Edit: typo
Those voting third party are ushering these guys in.
One of these guys is already in the white house.
no, they're not. the people voting for these guys are the ones ushering them in. people voting for a so-called third party are voting against these guys
Do the work for third parties between elections. That's when the hard-fought progress is made toward rising platforms and ideas. Vote third party in primaries. Attend third party meetings and help organize. But don't make the work to spread new ideas and build other options even harder by allowing democracy to creep further backward and affect up to 35+ years of judicial decisions.
No, sadly with the way US voting works at the moment the chances of a third party winning is microscopic, so voting for a third party is only taking votes away from the only party that stands a chance of beating the republicans. Statistically third party voters would be more likely to vote democratic than republican if they didn't have a third party option, so in reality the more people voting third party the more they're helping republicans win. It sucks but that's the reality.
Statistically third party voters would be more likely to vote democratic than republican if they didn’t have a third party option,
i haven't voted for a democrat for president in over a decade and i'm not starting again this year.
You know politics isn't like sports, right? You don't identify with a team but instead you vote to get rid of cruel fatcat racists and replace them with people who will actually benefit the country.
Like who?
Like the majority of representatives and senators? Not to mention stopping the return of Mango Mussolini? Jeez, do we really have to spell this out for you?
biden helped get us a country that elected Trump.
You know Trump was first elected BEFORE Biden was president, right?
I think they are referring to Biden being a career politician.
the more people voting third party the more they’re helping republicans win
only votes for republicans help republicans win
As much as it would be nice if the world worked that way, that's not how the world works unfortunately.
it is. a vote for Cornel West must be counted for Cornel West, not any other candidate
Your votes don't exist in a vacuum. There absolutely needs to be election reform to make third party voting a more viable option instead of a liability, but it hasn't happened yet so for now you live in a reality where you're voting in an imperfect system and trying to will the fantasy of a perfect system into existence instead of acknowledging that isn't helping anyone, least of all people who want to be able to actually vote third party.
Can you explain why the voting system is this way in states democrats fully control?
I'm happy to inform you that there are Democrat-controlled states and localities that have successfully passed ranked-choice voting.
And there are states that have BANNED ranked-choice voting as well. I'll let you guess which party was behind those.
So does this change your stance on whether Democrats are doing anything to change first-past-the-post voting systems?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranked-choice_voting_in_the_United_States
That's not how the US electoral system works. If the vote turns out 49%/48%/3%, then the guy with 49% wins. Unless your 3rd party is polling in the mid forties (and is therefore not a 3rd party) all you are doing is vote splitting
Not in an effective way.
the ethics are in the act itself, not in the consequences.
The ethics don't matter if you don't get the outcome you want... The ends do not justify the means here.
Evan McMullin's vote total in Minnesota in the 2016 Presidential election was larger than Hillary Clinton's margin of victory. Gary Johnson's vote total was almost 3 times McMullin's total. Johnson's vote total was larger than Clinton's margin in Colorado, too. If it weren't for third-party voters, Clinton would've had an even worse electoral college drubbing. (Perhaps this is the case in other states, too. Those are the two that I know off-hand.) Much has been made about how Jill Stein's vote total in Wisconsin in 2016 was higher than Clinton's margin of defeat, but without any 3rd party candidates, she would've lost by even more.
In 2020, Jo Jorgensen's vote total in Wisconsin was larger than Biden's margin of victory, as well as in Minnesota, Arizona, and Georgia. Her vote total in Pennsylvania was very close to Biden's margin of victory there. Without 3rd party candidates, Biden would've lost in 2020.
This article is about Rep. Tim Walberg, who blew out Democratic Party challenger Bart Goldberg in 2022. The 3rd party candidates in that race were from the Libertarian and U.S. Taxpayers parties. Without them, Walberg's margin of victory would've been greater.
It's absolutely true that voting third party is a really dumb strategy that will never achieve anything good and could conceivably allow for worse outcomes. It's also true that this potentiality is way overblown because of ineffective Democratic politicians using third parties as an excuse for their pathetic underperformance.
These fucks are evil.
.....wouldn't that just be nuking both of them? Israel is about the size of New Jersey.
Yes, he thinks he is brilliant for his subtlety.
Americans have forgotten all of the lessons of WWII.
To be fair all guys like this remember is that we dropped nukes on Japan and the war ended. That's the depth of the thought process. Maybe also that we didn't drop nukes on Vietnam and we lost. That sounds about right for that guy's age.
Pro Life!
Biden: Only if Bibi asks nicely