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Video footage broadcast Wednesday by Al Jazeera shows Israeli soldiers gunning down two Palestinians on the coast of northern Gaza, even as one of them waves what appears to be a piece of white fabric. The video then shows Israeli soldiers burying the bodies with a bulldozer.

Richard Falk, former United Nations special rapporteur on the human rights situation in the occupied Palestinian territories, toldAl Jazeera that the footage provides "vivid confirmation of continuing Israeli atrocities" and spotlights the "unambiguous character of Israeli atrocities that are being carried out on a daily basis."

"The eyes and ears of the world have been assaulted in real-time by this form of genocidal behavior," said Falk. "It is a shocking reality that there has been no adverse reaction from the liberal democracies in the West. It is a shameful moment."

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[–] [email protected] 84 points 7 months ago (6 children)
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[–] [email protected] 42 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (9 children)

Video is in the article.

What seems to be a tank drives up at 0:55 and shoots at 1:08.

The Bulldozer crushes them into a pile of rubble at 1:27

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

They can save on bullets, by lining them up and shooting them through the head, before they fall in their graves.

I've read about that from somewhere in history; can't exactly remember wer war schuldig, I mean, who was guilty of it...

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

I wonder how long until they start building gas chambers for Palestinians

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (3 children)

“It is a shocking reality that there has been no adverse reaction from the liberal democracies in the West.

Not that shocking, really. Liberalism would be self-determination everywhere, not the west protecting the world and instituting its own values. If someone somewhere else wants to operate under a different set of values where human life is not considered important, a liberal does not go over there and fix them.

Liberalism is not inherently "good", it's inherently hands-off. Like the Swiss. This is partly why its become somewhat out-dated as an ideology post-WW2. Expecting someone who believes in liberty to control the fates of lands and peoples not their own is misunderstanding it though. That's not liberty, it's the spreading exertion of power and influence--the opposite of liberty.

Liberty doesn't defend anything except itself. This is the root of US isolationism tendencies, and why hating the UN is so common here.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago (35 children)

But then you can't call the US a liberal democracy in any way as they aren't hands-off at all. Time and time again they meddle in other countries' business to exert influence and power and to advance their interests.

Israel itself was created by the West as Palestine was a British colony before and the US has since given more support to Israel than they would usually grant an ally. The continuous protection (political and militaristic) makes Israel almost a vassal state of the US. This is the real reason why "liberal democracies" have not reacted much (yet, hopefully).

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Before we low-key split from Pakistan, they had a similar symbiotic/parasitic relation as the US does with Israel. Seen as a good ally/possible partner diplomatically and with military utility for bases and CENTCOM power projection. And though Pakistan was never really ‘on side’ for a couple of reasons, they kept themselves under the radar and out of our ire - until we found Taliban militants regularly getting refuge and medical care over the Afghan-Pak border, and capped off with discovering Bin Laden in Pakistan.

Israel is hardly a ‘vassal’ or even protectorate. The US has significant leverage, but Israel has remained cordial with Russia and China even if that means snubbing the US - Israel refused to export anti-ship and cruise missiles to Ukraine, in deference to Chinese and Russian interests. Israel has options now to split from the US (painful as it may be) unlike in the 60/70s when the Soviets were funneling weapons to Egypt and Syria, and Israel required US support.

All that to say, Israel can (and may yet) tell the US to kick rocks again, and I don’t think the west is ready for the reality of what enforcing a ceasefire/no-fly zone would mean.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago (4 children)

The classic hands off approach of sending israel weapons and money to commit Genocide with.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago (14 children)

Liberalism is not inherently “good”, it’s inherently hands-off

It is absolutely not 'hands-off', it just denies the existence of externalized power structures inherent in capital and neo-colonialism and uses them to exert influence instead of (or in addition to, rather) the old imperialist tools of direct violence. It hides behind the rhetoric of self-determination while exerting its corrupting influence through capital and soft-power.

Liberalism is a delusion of neutrality and a scourge to liberty everywhere.

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