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Sorry for another "Is this autism or normal human behavior?" Post.

There's a long story as to why I am experiencing this again but it's not really any more relevant then the title of this post.

For older folk it's like that episode of the Simpsons where Lisa, out of pity, give Ralf Wiggim a valentines day card and he immediately starts invisioning a future with her as his romantic parter.

I've identified I have this same trait and I hate it. Looking back I've totally made people who had been nothing but kind to me uncomfortable and shut me out because of this.

Now knowing that I am doing this is at least making me a little more in control and hopfully less weird. But now I need to stop and asses every interaction I have which is itself awkward.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Stopping and assessing every interaction is a very good way to gain the automatic self-awareness that will help you resolve the overall issue that you express.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

When I imagine Ralph, I see an outsider who is avoided by the other children and ignored by the teachers, with a loving but somehow helpless father. ...being lonely , not being part of the group, not understanding the rules of the world around him.

I think it has to do with the need for attention and closeness. When you lack it, you turn to the person who has already fulfilled this need for you. It's hard to live with unfulfilled needs that you can't fulfill yourself. I guess the key is to learn how to find a relationship where your feelings are reciprocated (and to find out when they are not). I know that feeling and I don't have a solution.

I don't know whether this is a characteristic that is more prevalent in autistic people.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Fair point. In past cases this had proven to be the case for me. Perhaps is a subtle single to myself that I need more friends, or I should consider dating again, or maybe just get a cat.

Over the past 10years or so a certain factor in my life had made some of these very difficult if not impossible to achieve. I am working to solve that so I may have the opportunity to try these things again.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

If countering loneliness is the goal, a cat might be a fantastic idea. Pets in general can provide a more 'universal' and unconditional love then humans. I work with lots of different personalities through my work, and animal love almost transcends diversity in the sense that nearly all of those clients can accept and embrace the love animals give, either through pets, in the stable or on the farm.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

i think whether this behavior is unhealty or not would depend on severity of this "love"/obession.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

True in terms of healthy vs unhealthy. But I feel it's an uncomfortable experiance even when healthy.

I admit in my younger years (back in the 90s). I did the unhealthy thing. I think I've written about that on here. I had that obsessive behavure towards someone and embrassed myself terribly. Fortunately no harm was done towards others and I grew out of whatever that was. But that experiance was well beyond uncomfortable it was destructive.

However, now when this kinda thing happens (and it's rare that it does) I realize. it's often temporary. I can draw and boundaries for myself based on what the situation calls for. I'm better at gauging peoples comfort and not being pushy. I don't destroy friendships as I used too.

This discomfort is that feel vaunrable and cautious around those who are being nice to me. I'm not good at masking that one and it can be off-putting. Somtimes I need to distance myself from them which may be harmful to a new friendship.

Definitely a crappy emotion.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Have you looked at "limerence"? It can be caused by childhood trauma. I haven't found anyone talking about it in the context of autism tho.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Might be a good fit. I also identify as asexual, though may be more in the grey or semi sexual side of things. The intrusive thinking is something that is strongly mentioned here and something I've been dealing with. It's been causing a lot of my identity confusion.

It is odd to me that even my therapist keeps asking about childhood trauma in regards to some of my issues. Yet as far as I know my childhood was mostly good other then some bullying at school and at home.

I'll look more into this one with my therapist. Thak you for the suggestion.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

some bullying at school and at home

Bullying at home is neither healthy nor normal. Rejection in the place where you were definitely supposed to be safe, can cause these issues. Suddenly every positive interaction means that you are accepted. How do you react to yelling? To making mistakes? Uncovering the causes for these problems can take years but will be worth it. Something your therapist will hopefully guide you through better than an internet stranger. Be patient with yourself, you'll figure it out.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Sorry for another “Is this autism or normal human behavior?” Post.

I don't think you have to apologize for this. Seeking support with these situations is one of the reasons this community exists. It's even explicitly stated in the sidebar under encouraged:

  1. Questions regarding autism.
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Ask away!