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I've been on Wayland for the past two years exclusively (Nvidia).

I thought it was okay for the most part but then I had to switch to an X session recently. The experience felt about the same. Out of curiosity, I played a couple of games and realized they worked much better. Steam doesn't go nuts either.

Made me think maybe people aren't actually adopting it that aggressively despite the constant coverage in the community. And that maybe I should just go back.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Have been using GNOME with Wayland on a dual GPU NVIDIA laptop for 2 years. DE runs on the integrated Intel card; Steam, games, anything that needs dGPU runs on NVIDIA. It’s been a smooth experience.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

I haven't touched the X11 session once since I got my laptop, all Wayland

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Not yet. I'll give it another go when I get Plasma 6 (I'm on Debian, so either I'll switch to Sid or just wait a while).

Last time I tried it, it mostly worked, but mpv had some issues and missing features on Wayland. I haven't kept up with the mpv developments since then so I'm not sure if that's been addressed upstream yet.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Mid 2022, when i swapped my nvidia card to an AMD one. Instantly switched to Wayland (KDE Plasma) and stayed there.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Yes. Since 2013 or so, if I remember correctly. Gnome 3.10.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

No, I see no benefits

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

A year and a half? Basically when hyprland got good enough. I used to use awesome and needed something with similar pretty features.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I am dependent on a couple of programs I run via wine - and wine still isn't directly compatible with wayland and buggy with xwayland...

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Since Fedora 35 or more specifically rawhide in the lead up to Fedora 36, so late 2021. Plasma Wayland session, it had some rough edges, but I found it tolerable. I understand some people wont put up with it, or find workarounds and that is fair. Its been good to experience it as it has matured.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

KDE Plasma on Arch on integrated Intel graphics here. I've been on it for a few years and I love it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

I've been daily-driving hyprland for the last couple of months and it's been very smooth sailing for me. I configured it to very closely resemble my bspwm - polybar config though it was easier to set up. I have to say that in 99% of cases the experience is equivalent. You also get to run Wayland exclusive applications (though those aren't really common).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (3 children)

When network keyboard and mouse sharing works. It is the only thing stopping me going full Wayland.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

I am a relatively new Linux user, 3 years (almost 2 years dual booted with Windows and now only Linux) and I started using Wayland after approx 2.5 years ago. I used it on my ideapad gaming with 3050etx and Intel igpu and prior to that I used some hp laptop... With gtx 980mx. I used manjaro then arch and then fedora for the last yeae mostly and I haven't encountered any issues with Wayland whatsoever

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

I've been using it since it felt usable enough in GNOME to me. Around 2015-ish, give or take a year. GNOME leading on Wayland support is a big part of why I switched to it from Xfce back then. Nowadays KDE and others have plenty good Wayland support too (better in some ways like allowing server-side decorations and global shortcuts) but I just haven't felt like trying to properly experiment to see what I like.

I've always avoided Nvidia on my desktops. Stuck with either radeon or intel and never had any exceptionally big issues with them on Wayland. Though other things like hardware accelerated video decoding have had a history of being spotty on some drivers/GPUs.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Niche, I know, but I'm waiting on full functionality in Input Leap (Barrier fork which was a Synergy 1.x fork). Right now it sounds like it's 90% of the way there but lacks clipboard sharing. I'm running Wayland on my desktop, but this soft kvm is pretty fundamental to my workflow on my laptop.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Generally I have when I use Gnome or KDE on Linux, though I have started to prefer MATE, which doesn't have Wayland support yet afaik. I also started using FreeBSD on one of my computers a bit more, and I believe Wayland support is still a bit wonky on that right now. But as soon as Wayland support is there I'm definitely switching to that on the daily.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Been on it for about a year now, both with my desktop's A770 and my laptop's AMD iGPU. Experience has been pretty much flawless.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

I have been for the past month now. All of my games are now working.

Previously no and the reason was bc of Nvidia issues, but they all seem resolved now for the most part

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

I couldn't get the trackpad working right on X (why tf is acceleration on by default?), tried switching to Wayland in the first few hours of using Linux, and haven't had significant issues since. At that point I had no reference on performance, so no way to tell if X would be better.

There's maybe one bug that causes an unrecoverable GPU hang when using certain applications, but that may have been fixed in the kernel already, and I just need to use something newer than 22.04 LTS.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Using Wayland with KDE Plasma 6 on Arch btw. But I installed the old NVIDIA driver 535, waiting for explicit sync in 555 to fix flickering in games.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

I tried Wayland many times in the past ~6 years, usually with Sway (but I tried most other compositors, other than KDE's), but I always came back to X11 (using cwm).

Around two months ago I started using river, and I think I'll stick with it. There are enough Wayland protocols which now exist (and are supported by river) that using a minimal compositor feels pretty similar to just using a window manager on X.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

I've been using Sway for over 2 years, and for my workflow it works well, with one exception I just can't get vscode to scale properly for my display.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Yeah, I've been using it for a few years now. Not really given me any issues so I don't have any reason to use X again, but my use case is pretty basic 🤷

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Yes, though "since when" depends on the machine. My last machine to switch over was one with an NVIDIA GPU a couple of months ago.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Since I mostly run Debian with KDE, I've been using it a lot since KWin is on its stable repo.

First time I really use it is on Gentoo, which exclusively runs Plasma. Since it's rolling-release, it didn't take too long to be available.

I've been moving this build from one computer to another, they all work fine. Currently it's on a Thinkpad W530. Got some problems with multi-monitor that never happen under X11. Thankfully after I replace the firmware with coreboot, and opted for dGPU only, I never encountered any issue.

Currently, what keeps me from fully ditching X11 on KDE is the buggy SDDM support.

On the other hand, I've been using Linux Mint on my work PC. As you may have known, neither Cinnamon and XFCE has it at the moment.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I tried for a bit and it was great, no complaints. However, I was having issues getting NixOS set up as quickly as I would like, so I went back to Pop!_OS. I'm looking forward to the next release of Pop, which will have full Wayland by default.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

I have for more than a year. I've never had a single problem, but I'm on an all AMD system.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

I don't use it because it makes blender run at like 5 fps for some reason.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

I've been using Wayland since the end of last year, I haven't done any real benchmarking but games run about the same for me on either.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

I daily drive wayland with nvidia and I play games modestly. I have Xorg installed as backup for when issues happen, but it's been pretty rare in the last couple months.

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