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submitted 6 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

Have not been able to find any formalized/cohesive literature online

If not, I feel like this might be my calling

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[-] [email protected] 26 points 6 months ago

I'm not against AI, I'm against the way it's abused under capitalism

[-] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago

Everyone should be a skeptic since we live under capitalism

[-] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I'm against the way AI is built on the stolen labor of posters, the most oppressed class 😠

[-] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Hit up the critical tech reading list

Listen to This Machine Kills, an unironically marxist-luddist podcast.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

If we're recommending podcasts, Tech Won't Save Us is also v good and they have a lot of critical eps about AI.

Also Dune literally had an anti-AI rebellion called the Butlerian Jihad which I think is relevant.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

In that realm also exists the British comedy podcast trash future

[-] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

All this shit should be open source. Totally against any AI that isn't.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

There does seem to be some overlap yeah. Recent discourse around gen ai feels seems like a bunch of AI freaks telling already struggling artists that they just hate progress while they actively loose their jobs.

Shame you can't smash AI to pieces.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

AI is just a marketing term. Another bubble built on shaky foundations. Unfortunately when it pops and people realize it's shit, the ones pushing for it now won't face any consequences.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago
[-] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago

The Luddites were based

[-] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Yes people have been gaslighting the fuck out of me with this “AI” bullshit

The Luddites were infantilized despite having extremely valid concerns (and what do you know they were fucking right)

[-] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

I think OP is talking about the Luddite movement and not the caricaturised notion of Luddites that gets used as a Return To Monke slur.

There's a reason why the common conceptualisation of the Luddites is "Technological progress bad" and, shockingly, that's because liberals always divorce class struggle from politics reflexively because it's critical to maintaining their worldview.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Why so serious joker-che

[-] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The actual Luddite movement wasn't "technology bad" it was "We don't want to become unemployed because our jobs were automated away and the factory owners and government would let us starve to death, and we're going to protest that by destroying the machines that would destroy us to harm the capitalists"

[-] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Right but that mentality doesn't describe AI skeptics it describes people who are against AI

[-] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

well for one thing the luddites didn't dispute the names of the machines they smashed because they couldn't collectivize them

[-] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

I'm almost finished with Blood in the Machine. It's amazing and Brian Merchant made that shit come alive for me. He deftly weaves the concerns of modern workers and tech skeptics into the bloody and righteous struggle of the Luddites.

https://bookshop.org/p/books/blood-in-the-machine-the-origins-of-the-rebellion-against-big-tech-brian-merchant/17824365?ean=9780316487740

No General but Ludd

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