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@ggreenwald
Believing the Israel/Gaza war began on Oct 7 is as ignorant as believing the Russia/Ukraine conflict started in February, 2022.
Israel has been blockading and bombing Gaza continuously for 2 decades.
Israel bombed Gaza 2 weeks before Oct 7, and shot 5 Gazans on the same day.
@KweenInYellow
Israel bombed Gaza for three days straight two weeks prior to October 7.
Source: https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1769394949391299054
The October 7th is a narrative that is the same at September 11th.
The powerful write history so that they can say when history began.
Not too sure what the point of that article was... Summary of article posted below.
Here is the one mentioned in the tweet: https://www.npr.org/2023/09/24/1201381201/an-israeli-military-raid-has-killed-two-palestinians-in-the-west-bank
President Clinton criticized Israel yesterday for creating an obstacle to peace with its new campaign to encourage Jewish settlement in the West Bank, and accused Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu's government of trying to unilaterally resolve an issue that Israel had earlier agreed to settle in talks with the Palestinians.
Clinton's rebuke represented the strongest criticism he has made of Israel since Netanyahu took office last June pledging to strengthen Israel's presence in the West Bank.
The criticism from Clinton - known here and in the region as a steadfast backer of Israel - came on the same day several former U.S. secretaries of state, national security advisers and Middle East negotiators, using considerably more blunt language, wrote Netanyahu that expanding the settlements "Would be strongly counterproductive" and "Could halt progress made by the peace process over the last two decades." Israel threw the future of the Middle East peace process into a new season of tension and doubt last week with its decision to reinstate financial subsidies to Jews building homes and businesses in the West Bank, where Palestinians hope to create a permanent homeland.
At a news conference, Clinton said the future of the West Bank should be decided in talks with the Palestinian Authority - as Israel had agreed in 1995, before Netanyahu came to power with his hard-line approach toward Israel's historic adversary.
Asked if he considered new settlements an "Obstacle to peace," Clinton responded: "Absolutely." But he added that he was pleased that Netanyahu and Palestinian Authority Chairman Yasser Arafat spoke on Sunday - "That's a good thing; better than not talking" - and urged the two sides to close their stalled negotiations regarding Israel's redeployment from the West Bank city of Hebron.
Shultz said he wished Israel "Wouldn't be so aggressive about the settlements." Netanyahu's spokesman, David Bar-Illan, confirmed Israel had received the letter.
"These eight people were known as not the most friendly to Israel to say the least," he told Israel's Army radio, in remarks picked up by AP. "Israel's real friends not only refused to sign this letter but are expressing their support for our policies all the time." Clinton's Israel remarks came at a joint news conference after meetings yesterday with European Commission President Jacques Santer and Prime Minister John Bruton of Ireland, who holds the rotating European Union presidency.
Europe, as well as Canada, is adamantly against Clinton's decision last summer to sign the Helms-Burton law.
Clinton signed the bill in August, but with a waiver delaying the effective date for lawsuits by six months.
More recently, administration officials have called the settlements a "Complicating factor." CAPTION: Clinton, with Irish Prime Minister John Bruton, at news conference.
Helms-Burton Act
The Cuban Liberty and Democratic Solidarity Act of 1996, Pub. L.Tooltip Public Law 104–114, 110 Stat. 785, 22 U.S.C. §§ 6021–6091 is a United States federal law which strengthens and continues the United States embargo against Cuba. It extended the territorial application of the initial embargo to apply to foreign companies trading with Cuba, and penalized foreign companies allegedly "trafficking" in property formerly owned by U.S. citizens but confiscated by Cuba after the Cuban revolution. It also covers property formerly owned by Cubans who have since become U.S. citizens. The Act is named for its original sponsors, Senator Jesse Helms, Republican of North Carolina, and Representative Dan Burton, Republican of Indiana. It was passed by the 104th United States Congress on March 6, 1996, and enacted into law by the 42nd President of the United States, Bill Clinton, on March 12, 1996.
Just to point out it's been going on longer than 2 decades...
Ah, okay.
Thank you for explaining!
Glenn Greenwald is speaking facts, I love his great work
I mean he is a clout chaser, so know that, but credit where credit is due: he is accurate here on Israel.
I mean, in this specific case he is pointing out publications that are freely available to anyone who wants to look things up and pay attention.
I am glad he is broadcasting this, though it is information people should figure out immediately if they look up anything.
But hey, we live in a media inundated Kafkaesque hellscape. People need to be led to some stuff.
Yes, it was a great find when I started seeing his current and past work!
There are few journalists willing to go against the status quo, even after going through constant smear campaigns and bad press from legacy media types!
There are few journalists willing to go against the status quo, even after going through constant smear campaigns and bad press from legacy media types!
Eeeh I have recently heard excerpts of his interview with Alex Jones about the documentary "Alex's war" and oh boy did Greenwald sell his soul on that one.
Alex Jones unpromted says "I didn't lie on purpose" 4 times within a couple of minutes, a couple of more times throughout the interview and Greenwald just ignores it.
For starters that's not what a lie is, either you made a mistake or you lied. Furthermore he says that so often and always unpromted, which journalist would just ignore that?
Since it was a promotional interview for the documentary he likely got paid for it, but to have so little integrity to just let that fly made me question everything Greenwald did from that point on. I mean to take money from Alex Jones for an interview is a bad move from the jump, then leading an interview that doesn't even address the answers Jones gives is bad, but to ignore that sentence at least 6 times completely is willfully shitty journalism to me.
Just to make sure, I am not questioning what he reported in the post, it is clearly and thoroughly documented what Israel did to the Palestinians during all of its existence. I am questioning Greenwalds motives and journalistic integrity in a broader sense than what was reported here.
He's whitewashing Jones, they've worked together a lot. There's a podcast called Knowledge Fight that goes into detail on the Alex Jones Show and examines exactly how and why he's lying about things, they have a thousand multi-hour episodes and still can't cover everything he does because he puts out so much crap. They went back through the months following Sandy Hook episode by episode to look at how Alex's narrative changed over time.
Greenwald has popped up on the show a lot. I don't remember the specific interview you're talking about but I am sure I know exactly how it went. That whole documentary was bullshit, it just presents everything Alex says as fact and doesn't examine any of it. Every appearance Jones has made anywhere recently has been him spouting the same points to defend himself and nobody ever pushes back because he's not going to work with someone who actually wants the truth. It'll be just like when he was let back on Twitter and was in a live conversation with Musk, who just allowed him to lie to his face when previously he had refused to let him back on the platform over this stuff, because controversy and attention is how these people make money.
Greenwald may be right here because he seems to give a shit about this topic, and he may even have been a decent journalist once, but I can't trust anything he says or does ever again.
Yeah, I'm a policy wonk too. I didn't want to talk too broadly because I didn't pay too much attention to Greenwald in the Infowars universe, but I heard the Q&A episode with Greenwald just recently so I was confident to not mix up too much.
It's episode #709 2 Dan's 2 War.
Yeah the documentary is nuts, Alex Lee Moyer is a such a hack, just letting Alex Jones assert things over an over without any interest in finding out if the things he says are true OR even remotely resemble anything he said in the past, is just terrible craftsmanship.
But, the endgame documentary made by Jones himself is way funnier, like that a lot of his source documentation is just left blank or "insert quote" or fucking dead Encarta links, that so shitty and dubious you have to admire the braveness to just put something like that out there.
Ya he's been getting a bit more iffy lately. But at least he's right on this subject lol
It's pretty unfortunate that there are only so few of these amazing people