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James Lankford cites a veteran as partial reason for recommitting to Sunshine Protection Act, which has already passed in Senate

Archived version: https://archive.ph/QhlaG

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 8 months ago (6 children)

I don't care whether they remove it or make it permanent so long as they just fucking pick one and stick to it.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Omg, please for the love of everything, get rid of the time change.

I don't care which way they pick, just get rid of it. It's absolutely useless.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This is why it's an issue, because which side of a timezone you live on doesn't split down party lines.

For example when we set the clocks back it gets dark at 430 and this week if the first time I've seen sunlight outside of the time I'm in the office in months.

Anybody who supports a bill that would make it so I don't see the sun after 5 pm from October till June is worse than dead to me.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The thing about this argument though is that what time we call the particular position of the Sun in the sky is up to us, and the way we schedule our lives around those times is also up to us.

If what is problematic to you about locking in either DT or ST is the way your work or school schedule interacts with it, change those schedules.

Or put another way if it's more important to you that sunlight time lines up with your arbitrarily imposed schedule is more important to you than the health & safety of your fellow Americans, you're "worse than dead" to us.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

and the way we schedule our lives around those times is also up to us.

This is some r/im14andthisisdeep shit

Tell my boss time is just a social construct and you might have an argument.

Or put another way if it's more important to you that sunlight time lines up with your arbitrarily imposed schedule is more important to you than the health & safety of your fellow Americans, you're "worse than dead" to us.

Except that it also fucks over everybody else who is on the same "arbitrarilly enforced schedule" (which happens to be about 90% of working adults) and this isnt me being selfish in spite of everybody else. Being able to conceivably leave the house outside of the 9 to 5 working schedule is pretty universally popular.

Seriously wtf are you arguing for. How is it being dark on my commute to work, after I drop off my kids at school and also being dark when I drive home from work "safer for evwrybody"

Kids come home from school between 3 and 4 even with extracurricular, literally rhe only people the eveinging time change affects is working adults.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

I know of several large corporations that allow "summer schedules" for their workers. It wouldn't be hard to have four seasonal schedules.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Fucking do it already, damn!

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I live in Canada, and our local government passed a law in 2018 saying we would go to permanent daylight time, but then backed down because the west coast of USA wouldn't do it too.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago

This truly is the dumbest timeline.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Compromise and make DST permanent but 30 minutes ahead.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Please not a .5 difference lol. Add the hour or take it away, but not the .5 please.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Ok, let's compromise. Half the year we can add the half hour and half the year we take it away. For the farmers or something

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

You devil, you.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Even better, nobody likes getting an hour less sleep but everyone likes getting an extra hour. Just move the clocks back one hour each year!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Or better yet, adopt the 23 hour day.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

Be thankful you're not living in Nepal - they use UTC+5:45

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

So we can be 8 hours difference from India instead of 8 and a half.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Jesus Christ a Republican I agree with, what year is it?!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago

An election year.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago (2 children)

California, Oregon and Washington has all passed laws to do it, like 5 years ago, but it keep getting stalled. Should happen in like 10 years.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

They keep getting stalled because they proposed bills to remain on DST instead of not participating. To remain on DST requires US Congressional approval and the bills were ignored and were never brought up to vote.

Washington is looking at putting forth another bill to stop participating in DST altogether since that only needs to pass the state legislators and Governor sign-off.

I'd prefer to stay on DST permanently, especially on the summer solstice where the sun sets super late and you can enjoy summer. In the end, I just want to stop dealing with the fuckery of DST.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Probably because they tried it in the 70s and everyone hated it so much the switched back.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (2 children)

“As funny as this sounds, several years ago, I was walking in a Veterans Day parade, and a veteran … that was watching the parade, an older gentleman, gets up from his lawn chair – he actually walks into the parade route, shook my hand and said: ‘Before I die, would you end daylight savings time?’” Lankford recounted.
“He said: ‘I hate it. I’m in my 80s. I want you to get rid of daylight savings time before I die.’”

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Lankford’s bill would eliminate the time change by making daylight savings time apply year-round in the US.

So basically Lankford is bragging that he wants to do exactly the opposite of this (probably fictional) constituent actually wants. They don't grow 'em too smart in Oklahoma.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (2 children)

End or make permanent, the effect is basically the same in terms of convenience.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Standard time is better for health (and makes more sense from a practical standpoint)

Any arguments about sunlight, etc, are all nonsense because all you have to do is change your schedule if you insist on that

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Republicans LOVE to use vets as a prop when it's convenient.

They'll also stab vets in the back if they're convinced doing so would own a lib or two - see: republicans block PACT act, denying healthcare to veterans in an effort to spite the blue team.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

I'd never vote for him, but damn I do respect Langford. The guy has zero fucks going against his own party.

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