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seeing this made me just break down crying. if you'd asked me yesterday what i thought of akira toriyama i would have probably said i respected him immensely, but his work didn't hold a special place in my heart. but realizing that he's gone is just devastating. such an iconic, important artist. the world is worse without him

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 7 months ago

genuinely about to cry rn

thank you for my childhood and giving me a world safe to escape into after school heart-sickle

[–] [email protected] 36 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)
[–] [email protected] 35 points 7 months ago (4 children)

What is it with Japanese Mangakas dying a bit younger than they should? Why do assholes like Kissinger get a whole fucking centuries while genuinely good people die relatively young?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Probably due to awful working conditions and hours, with the stress taking its toll

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago

It wouldn't surprise me if the amount of smoking this generation did also has an impact.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There are probably very few working cartoonists and animators who take breaks to move their bodies as regularly as they should. That much sitting wrecks the cardiovascular system. In DPRK garment factories, management runs group dances and exercises throughout the working day to mitigate it

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I can only how bad it is for Mangakas, as some of them are known for pulling like 80 hours weeks at minimum. I only hope Araki Sensei is actually a vampire, cause I don't know what I'll do if the newest Jojo part 9 goes unfinished.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

I will have words with God if One Piece does not get a proper end

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

Dude died of stress, he had a brain hemorrhage.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

It varies tbh, only a couple of Toriyamas contemporaries have died and there are a bunch of foundational 60s mangaka or anime directors still alive pushing 85+ and even doing some work. Go Nagai for example (too horny to die probably) or Tetsuya Chiba (Ashita no Joe). Leiji Matsumoto died last year at 85 as well

[–] [email protected] 31 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Though sometimes found his stuff problematic (a little sexist and homophobic sometimes), Toriyamas work was a huge part of my childhood. Even though it came out pretty late in my country (late 90s - early 2000s I think?) Dragonball Z was one of the first anime series I ever watched religiously. Me and my friends used to watch together it every day after school.

And then there's Chrono Trigger, which I didn't play until it was released on DS, but I instantly fell in love with the art.

I mean, look at this Frog!

I really liked his blend of steampunk and Chinese folklore with scifi. There really isn't anything that looks like it.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

The rock splitting scene is one of my favourite cutscenes of all time. That theme just goes harddd and the fact that it's a frogdude just makes it that much more wonderous.

Thanks Toryiama. Absolute legend.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Japan in general still has a sexism and homophobia problem. Even huge current pieces (pun intended) like One Piece constantly follow the general trope of women being weak and lgbtqi+ being weird. So Toriyama is kinda just a product of his environment.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

certainly true to an extent, i don't think he was ever malicious with his stuff and i think there are many people who are much worse on those fronts. you mentioned one piece, which includes one of the most transphobic plotlines this side of silence of the lamb, and there are plenty of other way more problematic works out there. for contemporaries, zeta gundam was 86 and is real bad about gender, and of course there's a lot of bad stuff about queer people as well

but it's important to remember that anime was seen as much more progressive than western stuff for a lot of people at the time. they had kids shows full of sympathetic queer characters and women who fought in ways the west could only dream of. sailor moon is massive and isn't much later than dragon ball, classic anime like dirty pair included kickass women and trans positivity. that's not to say there wasn't plenty of bad stuff, it's just to say he wasn't simply a product of his time. there were others at the same time doing much better on those fronts, and finding success while they were at it

[–] [email protected] 30 points 7 months ago

I was genuinely shocked by the news. Truly one of the greatest.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 7 months ago

Truly RIP to one of the greats. His influence on pop culture has been tremendous. It's almost impossible to put into words how unique and important an artist he was.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 7 months ago (1 children)

blown away by how much I realize that I liked him

it'd be enough if he was just the artist for one hugely important and influential series with a sense of child-like whimsy, but he did dragon ball AND dragon quest

RIP rat-salute

[–] [email protected] 30 points 7 months ago

and chrono trigger! the fact that chrono trigger is only maybe the 3rd most important thing he did is astounding

[–] [email protected] 27 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Oh no! He died?!

Rest in piece, my favorite fly by the seat of his pants, make it up as you go along and forget half of the shit you made yourself, creator

One of my favorite stories is when someone asked him to sign a picture of super saiyan 3 goku and he laughed and said something like

"hey this is a cool design, did you make this yourself?"

Mfer forgot he designed it lmfao

Rip king

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The everlasting king of Dudes Rock

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

Man of culture he was

[–] [email protected] 26 points 7 months ago

Kinda taking a bit processing cause he was the same age as my dad.

We’ll miss you Toriyama chavez-salute

[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago

Toriyama will always be near and dear to my heart. His work isn't the most sophisticated, but it had a charm to it that only he could ever manage to create, and that resonated with millions across the globe.

Nunca te olvidaremos, Toriyama. Te mereces un respeto infinito. 🫡🇲🇽

[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago

Vale, Toriyama-san.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago

This is so sad but he lived a good full life and his work will live forever goku-halal

[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

RIP Toriyama, and thank you.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Wake Up

Toriyama is dead

I can not take this anymore. The worst part is that I learnt about this on jujutsufolk first.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago

This sucks. He wasn't even that old.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago

Rest in peace

I wouldn't a manga fan today without Dragon Ball, one of the first work I've read as a kid

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

fidel-salute-big it's really sad hearing this

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago

RIP to a legend fidel-salute

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago
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[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

I discovered anime as an adult, so it wasn't a part of my childhood, but Toriyama sensei had such an immense impact on the entire manga/anime industry as a whole that it's hard not to get emotional for any anime/manga fan.

I was surprised by how distraught I got when I saw the headlines. I'm going to rewatch the OG Dragonball show, since I can't stop remembering this iconic story and replaying my favourite scenes from it in my head.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I remember loving dragon ball as a kid, and then wanting more so I read the stuff after #42 and bwas like "nah it sucks". So I condemned toriyama to being some pervy dumbass until I stumbled on that weird waterworld manga he did and I thought "damn the guy who made that dog shit dragon ball could also make some cool stuff?" Which led to me rereading dragon ball and realising how much I'd misremembered the series. When I finally got to 42 again and saw the "Thank you! Good bye!!" I cried as if I was 6 years old and I'd just been told my best friend was moving away.
Guy was great. I especially love the first 20 or so volumes.
I was so sad when I heard of his death and I don't even understand why, I haven't had any connection with his stuff since I was a teenager

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

oh what? this is how i find out?