Does Sunshine/Moonlight still blow Steam Remote Play out of the water or does this bring them up to par?
this post was submitted on 29 Feb 2024
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My understanding is that sunshine/moonlight has better quality still.
The built-in steam game streaming has better steam UI integration though, and is available without installing any additional software.
I've used both to play Helldivers 2 recently and have found Sunshine/moonlight to be superior.
Just curious, when you do this in HD2, how do you use the mic?
So far, I don't. It doesn't have a hot key configured by default and I just haven't changed it. I tried to assign the rear paddles, but it didn't pick it up because I think the game was emulating an Xbox controller.
But I only really do level 5/6 missions on the deck. I find it a bit too unfamiliar for 7+ missions where I need to communicate well and pull off my shots with better accuracy.
Basically the same situation here fellow Helldiver, thank you for the confirmation. Now lets get back to the front lines!!
Oh no doubt, Steam Link is super easy to use. Once quality catches up it seriously might become the Stream Deck by default at home.
What specifically is better? These are just clients for the Streaming that Steam provides, right? They don’t actually swap out the “server” side, right?
They're completely different implementations of systems that steam video/audio/inputs.
Valve's is pretty buggy but has deep integration with Steam and allow NAT traversal, while Sunshine/Moonlight are way more reliable, have features that reduce latency but are pretty barebones as far as features: they just do streaming with no tight integration with what's being streamed.
And Sunshine is a reverse engineered version of Nvidia's game stream server, since Nvidia sunset Gamestream a few months ago.
Since Sunshine & Moonlight are open source, I wonder if Valve has considered integrating them. Based on their track record, Valve would likely submit improvements upstream too
Moonlight is Nvidia game stream so it'll be using the Nvidia server or sunshine which implements the Nvidia game stream protocol for AMD/Intel/Nvidia server hardware.
I've never been able to get Steam Link to work properly. Always the wrong resolution if I even get a picture at all.
Ideally it would work like a game streaming service where it just renders graphics based on your client display but usually it just mirrors whatever is on the "host" system display and I got tired of trying to make it work properly.
I only know it as moonlight (been a while since I used it). What's the Sunshine component?
As an aside, Moonlight was incredible. Used it to play PSO2 on my phone when I was a few hundred miles away visiting a friend.
Moonlight client originally used Nvidia's streaming server. Sunshine is an open source streaming server that moonlight can connect to.
Oh, fuck yeah. I remember it using nvidia shield, and I haven't bothered with seeing if it works outside of geforce since I dropped that (fuck geforce lol). Glad to hear there's an open source alternative.
It works well! I'm actually using the moonlight client for Xbox so I can play on the couch and it's great.
sit somewhere super comfortable
They are implying my desk isn't comfortable.
How rude.
It's not comfortable if you've been sitting there working for the past ~8 hours. I know a lot of people with computer-based jobs prefer playing games in different rooms of the house so that they can do something besides sit in front of their computer.
^^ It’s me, he’s talking about me and my tribe of people!
A better office chair really helps with that.
It's not about physical comfort, but the environment. I have a beefy gaming desktop but most of the time I end up playing on my SD in the living room because I associate my office with work.
Highly recommend buying a second hand/used Aeron chair. They are stupid expensive new, but luckily they are popular with tech startups. When those startups inevitably fail, they sell their chairs at a deep discount. I’ve bought two like that and I suspect they will last forever.
One is a decade old and the only thing that has failed was a hip joint. $12 on eBay and we’re back in business.
seconf hand steelcase leaps are great too.
The embody is much better in my opinion. I’ve had mine for several years now and it is the best thing I’ve done for my back
I really want a Håg Capisco to replace my cheap Ikea Järvfjället. Shit's super ergonomic, I always prefer those at work.
Did they fix Remote Play? The change log says they fixed a single issue:
Remote Play
Fixed infinite loading animation when streaming from another PC
There are many issues that have been introduced since release of the steam deck.
I'd like to be able to use the steam overlay while remote play is running.
That was the biggest issue with it, that wasn't letting people use remote play at all.
As far as I know other issues with it are still around.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Initially putting out a quick Beta update, and then very shortly after putting it into Stable so all users will be able to update now and have working Remote Play.
I've tested it across a couple titles from my desktop Linux PC to the Steam Deck, and yup — visual, audio and input are all working properly with no more infinite Steam loading screen.
Fixed the 'Verifying Installation' message incorrectly showing on every startup.
Fixed infinite loading animation when streaming from another PC
Nice to see Valve get such a big feature fixed up, still a shame to see the initial update rolled out with it broken though.
This is great, as Remote Play is such an incredibly useful feature for when you want to run some bigger games smoother on Steam Deck and you have a PC, so you can sit somewhere super comfortable and just stream it instead of sitting at a desk.
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