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[–] [email protected] 38 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Are you running a proprietary video driver? It might be worthwhile to disable it in case it became incompatible perhaps after a kernel upgrade.

Did you perform a graphical login prior?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Yes to both. What should i do

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

First, you might try booting an older kernel to see if that runs for you. Your bootloader such as grub might help you pick an old one.

The older kernels are actually combinations of kernel + initial ramdisk that contains the version of your graphics drivers that were being used at that time. It could be a way to test the hypothesis.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Same error on older kernel

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Hmm, interesting. That tells us that it's not actually a problem with your graphics driver or kernel version, and given that it was working on this version before, I would think some aspect of Xorg configuration, your graphics hardware has an issue, or your installation in general has been corrupted when it tried to upgrade.

You might try to detect corruption by using a tool like debsums to check for any obviously corrupted files.

What's the state of your debian packages I wonder... does something like apt-get update or apt-get check highlight any problems with the state of installed packages that could point to a failed upgrade?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I think its because / is full. Some packages cant update. Is there a way to combine them without gui as i am disabled and cant use a mouse? I know u cant edit partitions booted

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

If you can boot into terminal session, e.g. by pressing Ctrl + Alt + F2, you can try:

sudo apt clean
sudo apt -f install
sudo apt clean
sudo apt dist-upgrade
sudo apt clean

If sudo apt -f install doesn't work properly, you can create an apt-cache folder on, e.g. your home partition, assuming this is the one with sufficient amounts of free storage.

sudo apt clean
sudo mkdir /home/apt-cache
sudo nano /etc/fstab

In the fstab you specify where this directory shall be mounted:

/home/apt-cache    /var/cache/apt/archives    none    bind    0    0

Now you copy the files in place and mount the partition:

sudo cp -r /var/cache/apt/archives/* /home/apt-cache
sudo mount -a

Nou you should be able to run the fix-installation and update commands without the errors:

sudo apt -f install
sudo apt dist-upgrade
[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (7 children)
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[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

A full root will absolutely kill your system.

You have unlocked a new achievement: the software hoarder!

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This may seem like an obvious question, but are there files you can remove or perhaps move to another drive or USB stick temporarily to make enough space to get through your updates? You should be able to do those while rootfs is full.

We can certainly delete or copy files using the terminal.

Are you sure the root is full and not readonly due to other errors? Why do you believe root is full?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

duf / lists 0gb as available. Idk what i should move

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Here's a guide I found online that has some commands that might help you figure out where your storage has gone:

https://askubuntu.com/questions/266825/what-do-i-do-when-my-root-filesystem-is-full

How big is the partition?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What should i do

Avoid Nvidia like the plague.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Wait months to buy a amd gpu as im on disablity? Got it

[–] [email protected] 28 points 8 months ago (1 children)

* zoom in on the error message

Yep, of course it's Nvidia.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

Every time I have seen a funky black screen with text against my will Nvidia was involved.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago (2 children)

It's good to see that the same problems from Knoppix in 1998 still persist into 2024.

It's become my standard procedure to do a full backup before a major version upgrade of Linux nowadays as a result

Xserver has failed to start.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

Gotta love xorg

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

Knoppix

now there's a name I haven't heard in ages...

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

wtf.png

Looks like it wants to remove the cause but not the symptom.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm gonna be honest: I don't know what you're trying to say.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm not knocking it, but I feel like you really wanted to use this image somewhere. 😁👍

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Look on top of op's monitor

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Looks like Tim Curry.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago

That's the novideo graphics card for you

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

That was on the kernel 6.1.0-18, I had it too, fixed several days ago, but in OP picture the kernel is 6.1.0-17, that one wasn't affected.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Nice! That looks like a fun one.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

MommysBabygiwl ?? On the third line. Is this canon to debian lore or did OP change it to that?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Did you solve it? Recently there was a problem with graphics thing and downgrading mess from 1.24 to 1.23 helped me. It was in arch with AMD graphics, but some people said Nvidia ones also had the problem.

Edit: mesa not mess

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Yes. Apt-cache is mounted on /home which allowed me to update fully

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

I would be looking for ways to revert that update. Either using a pre-existing timeshift shapshot or maybe apt's built in reversion capability. (Which I'm not familiar with, sorry.) Hopefully someone with real skills will chime in, good luck.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

if your updates included a new kernel try installing the kernel headers for the new kernel.

then if it's still not working reinstall the nvidia driver.

i used to daily drive debian with proprietary nvidia drivers and it would break with every kernel upgrade

from memory, so almost certainly incorrect, the fix was simply something like


sudo apt install linux-headers-`uname -r` && sudo reboot
[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I had same problem on Arch based distros, it's Nvidia problem. Try booting with LTS kernel.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

You may want to go back to driver 525... im not running debian at the moment, nor do i use mvidia graphics, but this page seems to say that 525 is the newest supported version as of feb 2

https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#sid-525

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