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[–] [email protected] 173 points 9 months ago (17 children)

Where they at tho?

We all know there’s barely enough people here. It’s not unusable, but there are so few people it’s always the same users posting and commenting, and it can be a bit dead occasionally.

I’m committed to the fediverse, but we could do with another big push from people dumping Reddit. Part of that would also rely on us (🫵) not being obnoxious towards the potential new users 👀

[–] [email protected] 157 points 9 months ago (11 children)

I think a lot of the refugees from Reddit are lurkers.

[–] [email protected] 64 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 49 points 9 months ago

I heard it's something like 90% of people lurk, 10% of people comment, 1% of people post. So you need a pretty substantial population just to have enough posts and comments for the lurkers to still hang around.

It's also why it was particularly dumb of Reddit to piss off their 1% and 10%.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago (5 children)

You really gonna call me out like that, homeslice?

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago

Can confirm. I don't talk much lol.

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They're on Mastodon and Misskey for the most part.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 28 points 9 months ago (4 children)

It’s a Mastodon type microblogging service but I think I read it’s popular in Japan and South Korea.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Lemmy is only 4% of the fediverse by user %. Most of the fediverse is Mastodon.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I don't get why people like the microblig format. It's so terrible for anything more than snarky quips.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I've got a mastodon account. The people I follow don't mark snarky quips. Instead, they post updates of things they are making (music, games, and comics mostly); and they share photos that they've taken, and links and comments to news that they find interesting. Compared to Lemmy, it's more personal, because when you respond you are talking directly to a person that you are likely to talk to again.

Mastodon doesn't use a personalised algorithm. So your home feed will only show hashtags and people that you follow. (There is an 'explore' feed for seeing other stuff that might be 'trending' or whatever.) So if you are seeing too many snarky quips - just unfollow the person making them.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 9 months ago (5 children)

A lot of the thousands of Reddit comments per post were variations of ‘this!’ or inane joke responses, and I don’t miss that at all. It’s not the quantity, but the quality, and I’ve found discussions here to be more like Reddit’s early days when comment threads were more worthwhile.

But if you’re looking for the Reddit experience, I’ll help:

Came here to say this.

Not sure why you’re getting downvoted.

Username checks out

This deserves more upvotes.

I’d give you gold if I could.

Shots fired.

Nailed it.

You. I like you.

Tree fiddy.

You had one job.

That’s enough internet for today.

Happy cake day! 🎂

I have the weirdest boner right now.

Directions unclear.

Banana for scale.

5/7 with rice.

Mom’s spaghetti.

I laughed harder than I should have.

Sauce?

Someone give this man gold.

Circlejerk is leaking.

This was not my proudest fap.

What did I just read?

Risky click.

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

(☞゚∀゚)☞

(ಠ_ಠ)

¯_(ツ)_/¯

You dropped this: \

Woosh!

This is why we can’t have nice things.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago

End thread.

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[–] [email protected] 137 points 9 months ago (9 children)

Everyone wishing for more users might be wishing on a cursed monkey paw. I don’t know what the sweet spot number of active users is — I want more so we can have contributors to niche communities — but there’s a tipping point. You want your favorite bar/restaurant/message boards to be popular but not too popular.

[–] [email protected] 87 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (8 children)

Personally I think it's more important to break big-tech's hold on online communication. Every single user who leaves a centralized platform to join the Fediverse is a win in my books! Another thing is that we never had a mainstream decentralized, nonprofit and non-algorithmic social network before afaik, I'm actually not sure if the climate will evolve like it did with the other networks.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I guess I just don't have faith in the majority's conversation. Once you have a lot of dumb people, all the content starts devolving. Especially the comments.

As a dumb myself, it's a difficult problem that I don't have an answer to.

But maybe it's a net positive. Don't spend all day on one platform. And the dumb jokes are nice for being less serious all the time. As long as there is still good conversation

Bro, we've had like 3 dozen memes at the top about Taylor Swift's airplane just in the last week. We are not exactly avoiding what I just complained about. So I guess it'll be okay

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (16 children)

I still can’t believe we haven’t seen a @whitehouse.gov.social or whatever spring up. Why in the world would they not want to control their social media presence in house? Why allow Twitter that luxury?

If they went cold turkey on Twitter and set up @[email protected] the posts would still end up on Twitter because people would cross post them (just like we see Twitter posts on Masto or lemmy).

At least some EU governments have started making their own accounts.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I emailed my region’s national weather service and asked that they join Mastodon and the meteorologist said they wanted to but there’s an approval process for communications and it takes awhile to add new services.

I’m basically completely off X (and haven’t had a Facebook account for years) but during a recent storm, I made a new Twitter account that just follows local government accounts. It’s annoying that the fastest way to find out about flooded roads and stuff is X and I really hope that changes soon.

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[–] [email protected] 75 points 9 months ago (12 children)

For anyone who needs a reminder: user account ≠ human individual user. There are no bot/captcha protections nor IP restrictions on Lemmy. I'd say we have less than 1 million actual human individual users.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (7 children)

I'm sure people have multiple accounts too, I have more than one.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I think it's grown quite a bit though. Lots more posts, votes, conversation.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Facts, having been here since the API shit went down, i have seen a LOT more engagement on the platform compared to july 2023

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago

I would imagine that if bots accounted for so much traffic, we would see more steep vertical growth in numbers

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Sweet when are we gonna IPO?

By the way the CIA just called to ask if anyone knows who controls this place and if they want a free tour of the MIT server closet.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Monthly Active Users are unfortunately down for the past several months in a row. Something more needs to happen.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The comparison of users to active monthly users sounds about right .... 10 million users with about 1 million active monthly users

The usual ratio of lurkers to creators .. 10 to 1 ... the majority of everyone just browses no matter which platform it is ... it's the same in any social circle since the dawn of time ... there's only a small group of creators and everyone else just like to watch / read / listen

[–] [email protected] 27 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Not everyone is interesting enough to have stuff worth posting.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago (2 children)

That's what everyone would like us to believe. Everyone has a unique story and background and to me they are all interesting.

It's just that we are all conditioned to think that we are not worthy enough to share our stories. If we believe we aren't worthy ... then we are not. But the opposite is also true, if we believe we are good enough and that our stories are worthy, then they take on a life of their own and become important.

I always enjoy quoting George Carlin because he was a proponent of the power of belief ... society and the individuals in that society believe whatever they want to believe

"I have as much power as the pope ... I just don't have as many people who believe it" - George Carlin

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

It’s interesting to see how big the Elon musk twitter takeover affected these numbers. The Reddit exodus is so tiny in comparison. Worth noting that the numbers kept going up after that.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 9 months ago (8 children)

I can't use the "there are dozens of us" joke anymore??

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (5 children)

Congratulations Lemmy we are now statistically significant 🥹

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Like most of us, I'd love to see more active users. But the limited quantity is of much better quality here. Reddit is a cesspool of cliques and groupthink.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 32 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

Nope, that's gotta just be registered users. We're kidding ourselves and don't even have 200k active users

*update: this is just Lemmy users, but OP was talking about all of the fediverse *

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Although FediDB claims we have about 418k active

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago

Nope. That's 418k total. 38k active

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Are they bots pretending to be people?

[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago (4 children)

On the internet, nobody knows you're a dog.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You think people would do that? Just go on the Internet and tell lies?

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This is probably more appropriate for c/fediverse

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago

You'll have to specify which server because lemmy still cannot show all posts on all server in /c/fediverse

In my opinion the biggest problem on lemmy

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (13 children)

That's pretty awesome! It will be interesting to see if we get a noticeable influx with all the moronic moves reddit is making. Here's hoping!

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