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I run proprietary Nvidia drivers as well and Wayland runs so much better than Xorg now that I'm permanently coming over to Wayland. I'm extremely happy rn with Wayland
Not gonna lie, I specifically bought an AMD GPU laptop so I could run a Wayland WM. After trying and failing with my old nvidia optane razor laptop I gave up on Nvidia. I still use it on my desktop tho. It's so much smoother than X-11.
same here. few years ago ditched the nvidia card for amd and made my life rasier. wayland on fedora all the way, no issues. but i guess i'm completely different type of user.
It should be noted that for some reason, people in Linux communities seem to never watch hardware accelerated video content, because AMD 6000 and 7000 have HUGE issues regarding video decoding on Linux, Im talking full system crash or full system freezes after 30 minutes of watching videos on youtube (and thats without mentionning the video freezing for a few seconds with the audio still going, and then catching up, and refreezing a few seconds later). It caused me to install Chrome which does not have hardware acceleration yet to watch youtube if I wanted to have an uptime of more than 1.5 days.
These issues have only been reported on AMD's iGPUs though, so I think dedicated graphics cards should be fine. But anyways, for this reason alone, I would just recommend Intel chips for most users, especially now with the new Intel Gen 1 Ultra or whatever its called, the GPU is basically on-par with AMD and the CPU is very close as well.
Hm weird. Running 6000 series igpu with hw decoding on, no issues.
On desktop 7000 series dGpu, also no issues.
There were some Frame drops in the past, but current kernel + Mesa has no issues for me.
I was seeing those issues on my 7840u, but they were completely resolved with the testing firmware for phoenix here: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/issues/8044
I had those before. Tought the card was bust somehow, turns out it was driver issues. You do run into quirks here and there, too.
AMD drivers are much better but are not the utopia some users say they are.
Bought a new AMD GPU to run Wayland. Here's to NVIDIA getting their shit together or, more likely, going bankrupt.
That's hilarious. 😄 Linux users dropping Nvidia en-masse would be like a half a percent blip on their desktop market share. Probably couldn't even tell if it's a rounding error.
This is a company that's speculated to drop the desktop consumer market altogether at some point. They make so much money from other industries it's obscene. I suspect they only keep the gaming and desktop crowd around for the drama and the publicity. They don't really give a shit anymore.
Which would be sad in a way because Linux gaming was built on Nvidia. For the longest time it was the one manufacturer you could count on to be there and deliver decent, accelerated Linux drivers consistently.
Consider all the gamers with more money than sense buying 4090s for the price of cars and, more importantly, many companies buying datacenter cards for their next generative AI project (not that I think many of them will last).
I don't see Nvidia running out of money any time soon.
I had nothing but issues running Wayland with Nvidia. How strange.
That's because the drivers are bullshit but not the problem in general. They work well for some very specific cards, not at all for other and in general it's just random hit or miss.
And then, to make it more fun, not all wayland compositors are born equal either.
Any recommendations? Or knowledge of which cards work best with it? I'm thinking on trying it out again, never tried it on my 3070
Not to be flippant about it, but I just recommend trying it and seeing how it works for you. You can have both Xorg and Wayland installed, you just change out which one you're using at the login window
I keep trying Wayland and an in the middle of an attempt. I use fedora maniacally updated, Nvidia, and plasma shell. I'm about to abort again:
-even configured to directly use Wayland, I see chrome based browsers glitch out on occasion, and when it starts glitching it just keeps on glitching
-plasma panel stops updating multiple times a day, staying frozen including the clock
-sometimes kwin starts, but plasmashell has to run manually, and per above has to be restarted on occasion
-occasionally it just forgets what the monitor resolution is supposed to be and reverts to 1024x768
-the blur translucency effect glitches around mouse cursor
-immersedvr doesn't support Wayland
On the flip side, xorg problems are: -occasionally kwin can't grab keyboard for some effects until restarted. This is a well documented bug butt other than it being xorg specific, doesn't seem to be figured out.
-some things tear in ugly ways, but not nearly as bad as the chrome glitch under Wayland.
Maybe kwin isn't a great Wayland compositor, maybe Nvidia drivers are still not up to snuff. Ultimately, it's not viable for me. Further kwin is a huge factor for "why Linux desktop" for me, gnome shell is more limited even than Windows for my workflows.
Have fun with your 10% FPS drop, undocumented glitches, and zero support for 45 degree tilted monitors lol
45 degree tilted monitors lol
WTH? That's a "thing" who or why would you even do that?
my ONLY gripe with wayland rn is the lack of global hotkey support, which currently breaks Discord/other's "push to talk" feature unless you install a webserver to control your mic via your compositor's hotkey system and HTML requests 😭
I suppose push to talk can and should be owned by the desktop and not any particular app, but Id like an interim protocol until then
global discord hotkeys work for me on sway and hyprland for the most part
Hyprland nvidia here, running without and issues so far for about a month
I've been using NVIDIA under Wayland for a few months now and it's been... alright? No major issues on v535 (however v545 is buggy as hell for me, Minecraft would show a black screen whenever too many pixels were updated -- needless to say, I downgraded).
However, I'd still love to swap to an AMD GPU because of better Linux support, maybe keep my current GPU for passthrough.
Yeah Wayland rules- problem for me is I'm hopelessly addicted to Synergy for mouse and keyboard sharing, and it doesn't work on Wayland yet>< I'm 100% team red and my fancy new display won't do 4k@144hz on X11 so that's frustrating. 144 and no Synergy or 1440p 144hz and Synergy
Try rkvm. It even works outside of X/Wayland. The only downside is the lack of copy/paste which I'm still trying to find a solution to.
I use i3 and kde on void with an amd gpu, i tried kde wayland and sway (and i check on them every few weeks), but I've found them to be buggy and sway in particular to be very difficult. I honestly have no idea why it's been like this for me, i look forward to the day wayland is truly as good as x11
KDE/Wayland has become stable for me with AMDGPU only in the last 6 months or so. They seemed to have had a lot of trouble on that.
Sway always worked for me, though.
For me the switch was simple the only issue I do encounter from time to time is lockscreen related. What's not working for you?
KDE and Wayland works perfectly, at least if you are on 5.27 or even Plasma 6 beta.
I‘m running kde on debian stable. I‘ll let you know when my branch is ready. Until then its X11 all the way. Wayland wont even let me log in.
Might be waiting a while if you're on Debian. But should be pretty nice once it's working.
I'm just salty that I have bugs and other folk don't. I'll regret my username choice in the future for sure but for now, I'm just going to stubbornly stick by it until NVIDIA makes better drivers
How are the games, and especially Electron apps? Gotta know this.
If you can enable wayland / ozone electron apps do fine otherwise still flickery
I used to use Xpra a lot, to run services in remote containers/VMs. I've recently replaced all of that with waypipe. It's not quite the same as waypipe does not offer offline buffering like Xpra, but damn is it smooth and seamless!
I was in shock at how smooth everything was like these madlads made something amazing that's less bloated than Xorg. Props to the devs!
using terminal can be productive.
I waited for so long to buy an external trackpad for my desktop, Wayland on Nvidia is basically what was preventing me from getting it. After about a month or two of stability testing, it's really great now, so since yesterday I can finally enjoy all the GNOME gestures that I enjoyed for so long on my laptop on my desktop as well!!
I was super happy under Wayland but switched back to x11 when my maximize and minimize buttons in Firefox (yes only Firefox) disappeared randomly after an update. It's such a small issue I lived with it for a few weeks until I changed to x11 troubleshooting some other minor issue and saw they were back (and the problem I switched for was completely unrelated, lol). The different experiences for me were basically invisible so I never bothered switching back.
Mostly I don't have strong feelings one way or the other currently, my install defaulted to x11 originally, I switched to check Wayland out and really didn't notice any major differences. I was told I'd have so many issues in Wayland that just didn't seem to exist...
Wayland is not ready yet. I'll wait till its done before jumping over.
I'll switch when xfce fully supports it, by that time it should be ready.
(this is not meant as a slight against xfce in any way, I appreciate their focus on rock-solid stability)
I use i3 on a thinkpad p50 with hybrid graphics (Intel + nvidia). Works sort of stable if I force the use of the dedicated card, but I'm getting like 1,5h of battery.
Video acceleration seems to work most of the times, but for a few weeks I have problems with picom freezing my screen, capping fps in games and video. Any ideas? It took me hours to have it running sort of smooth, so I'm hesitant to try out sway and ruin my daily setup
Is there anything like Xmonad for Wayland?
If I could run Wayland with Nvidia I would actually go to the trouble of configuring Nix.
Same situation, but my machine just suddenly rebooted for no apparent reason 10 minutes ago. I hope Plasma 6 irons out these instabilities.
Same I wanna try KDE Plasma 6 and Pop!_OS's cosmic desktop when they release. These projects look really cool