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[–] [email protected] 83 points 8 months ago (2 children)

A state that has capital punishment says what?

[–] [email protected] 77 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Human life cannot be wrongfully destroyed without incurring the wrath of God

Atlas died and got reincarnated as the word "wrongfully" in this sentence.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Humans are DEFINITELY equipped to decide which deaths will incur the wrath of God and which deaths he would approve. We perfectly understand the infinite, that's like basic Christianity. /ssssssss

[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This reads to me like an admission that, since we apparently know for sure of God's wrath, there is literally no purpose to punishing crimes. I mean, surely a murderer wouldn't dream of doing it a second time, when they logically know for sure that their afterlife would then be upgraded from regular Hell up to Double Hell, which as we all know is a misnomer of a name due to it being easily 50x worse than regular Hell. Therefore, recidivism is a myth and we would just be overcomplicating the person's actual punishment. So it's actually barbaric to punish literally any crime.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

Another take is that no deaths are wrongful because they're all part of God's plan - if he wanted to stop it, he could have, which means he chose not to. QED abortion is God's will.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

How do laywers not just have a field day with this stuff?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

There is that one example where a woman successfully appealed her HOV lane citation because she was pregnant. We might see more as these rulings get made, but I imagine a lot of them won't be successful because the theocrats have declared calvinball rules when it comes to this stuff, and it's just as easy to come up with a made-up reason for the rule not to apply in a given case.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago

Using that 13th amendment loophole.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 8 months ago (3 children)

So homeless people being starved to death by capital also must be an affront to God as well, right? Or poor people being murdered by the healthcare industry because they can't afford it, right? Or Palestinians fleeing for their lives, right? anakin-padme-4

[–] [email protected] 31 points 8 months ago

Or a single innocent person suffering the death penalty?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago

That's why they stuck that "wrongly" in there.

Obviously murdering brown people, letting homeless people starve, and executing people is fine because that's them correctly destroying human life. Unlike a women with a non viable pregnancy that would be very wrongly. Because they said so.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

You'll find plenty of right wingers critical of capital owners and their allegiance to Israel, but that's a real monkey's paw moment. They might... disagree about what is to be done.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Ok. Lets apply that logic literally anywhere else.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

I was going to say so this guy and the whole state are obviously completely against rhe death penalty right?

[–] [email protected] 46 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Separation of church and state? What's that? Doesn't apply to me. Anyway here's literally bible verses about why I should take your rights away. Also can someone remind me when the next scheduled death penalty is? Wouldn't want to miss out on that spectacle!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

Thank God we have separation of church and state so the only reasoning you have for abortion won't affect how the legislation is put into practice... right? anakin-padme-4

[–] [email protected] 37 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They mention "God" 41 times and quote multiple times (among others): the KJV Bible, Thomas Aquinas, Augustine, and John Calvin.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Abortion is never forbidden in the Bible

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago (1 children)

There is actialy, a guide to how to do it

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yea but you have to meet the really high threshold of a man suspecting that his wife might have cheated on him.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

Then you have to get stoned, which is still illegal federally.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 8 months ago

I hate Alabama nazis

[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I know the constitution isn’t worth the paper it’s written on but can I get a “muh first amendment” please?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

"The constitution" is just the first three ammendments.

Those ammendments are of course:

  1. I can say slurs and nobody can get mad at me.

  2. I can shoot somebody for calling me a mean name.

  3. No immigrants.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago

Ok, but what if I want to incurr the wrath of god? What happened to my personal freedoms I thought this was amurica

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago

God's image reflected in a puddle of spunk.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Can someone more knowledgeable on legal stuff tell me, is there a step past this? Can this be appealed to a federal court? It’s state law but this state law pretty clearly violates the first amendment so I’m not sure how that works.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

At a high enough level "legal stuff" works the same way as politics.

Whoever has enough power to enforce their ruling gets to decide what everything means. Everything else is just a facade to keep people from operating under this framework.

It's why you have the Supreme Court making rulings like "this ruling is specific to this case and should not be interpreted as precedent if it would be obvious the same logic could be used against us"

It's why they put the word "wrongly" before destroyed. So that anytime they destroy human life its correct and fine but anytime anybody does something they do t like that wrong and therefore an agronomy to God.

It's literally what the country was founded on "we belive all men are created equal, slavery is totally cool."

In short they're going to do whatever the fuck they want and "what are you going to do about it" is their legal justification.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The technical answer is that a decision by a state supreme court can only be appealed directly to the SCOTUS, who has to choose to take it up. This section specifically cannot be appealed because it is a concurring judgment which does not make law, and would probably be considered non-binding orbiter dictum regardless.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

It's time to Sophie's Choice these motherfuckers. Mandatory abortions for everyone that contributes to this kinda shit. But the kicker? All other abortions outlawed. Go on. Be the victims you claim you are. Be the scapegoat. Martyr yourselves on the altar of the zygote. Save all the other babies at the cost of your own. You'll save more than you lose. Want children anyway? Adopt some. Do it, cowards. Prove you really fucking mean it and end your bloodlines for the sake of others. Prove this isn't just ethnofascist white birthrate bullshit. Prove it's really about the "sancity of life."

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago