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Where there’s no “agenda” or biased mods/admins. I’d love a good community where if there’s issues, it’s handled fairly and with respect to both sides of the argument.

I don’t care how big or small it is. I’m willing to help it grow if need be, but I’d like to find somewhere that isn’t so obvious with its bias.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What kind of bias?

The overwhelming majority of time I see those requests, it's right wingers being offended by basic respect of human beings that they deem to be inferior and want to freely discriminate against.

I tried free speech absolutism in the past and it always ends up with incredibly toxic communities. Moderation is good.

In 10 years even on Reddit, I never had any encounters with mods or admins. I've never been able to find the tyrannical mods that everyone whines about.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago

Hey, I know your username! Familiar from the reports I'm getting 😁

On a more serious note - there's no such thing as unbiased. I'd like to believe I run my instance in a fair way, but I can't guarantee you'd like my definition of fair.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Make your own instance. There'll still be bias but at least it'll be your own.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

Your own instance

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

A question like this I would've expected in [email protected]

That depends on personal experience. Often we don't think of something as biased until we find the bias. Some people might mention a bias they see that others don't, and others vice versa. And bias is a spectrum. And sometimes the people have a bias but not the management, and vice versa. And even then, a place could be biased but tolerant or intolerant but unbiased.

If I had to choose, in my experience, Mastodon has been cozy. If only it had more people. Maybe that's why it's comfy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Isn’t mastodon more like Twitter? I’m not crazy familiar with it to be honest.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Yes, in fact they tried riding off the fact Musk bought Twitter. Which in hindsight is understandable. To this day, Musk's bias is the easiest bias in the world to underestimate. Still on both sites though, it on its own is not bad as it's their sites.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

In general, I think that most instances give an up-front impression of how the instance admin wants to run things based on their rules.

You can see a lemmy instance's rules in the right-hand sidebar of the main page.

You can see a kbin instance's rules at /terms; for kbin.social, this would be:

https://kbin.social/terms

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

I'm pretty happy with sh.itjust.works.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Why is this downvoted so much? It seems like a legit question, and there are good answers.

Clearly some instances have tons of bias, so asking for the opposite should be possible.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

i think we've all seen enough chuds whine about their freeze peach. i also think it's pretty naive to think there exists an instance without bias: that would be like saying there is a newspaper or tv news without bias.

so i don't think this is a good question. it betrays ignorance or naivete, and can't really be answerd succinctly.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

All instances have an agenda. Some of them align closer to your ideals so they feel less notorious, but would be obvious for someone of opposing ideology.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

At feddit.uk we have a pro-tea bias ([email protected]) and a definite inclination towards talking about the weather.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I personally like dbzer0. Anarchist instance owned by a former moderator of the piracy subreddit. (Obviously if you are right leaning politically you won't be welcome, but that goes for basically the entirety of lemmy)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

So they are biased then? (In an awesome way, admittedly, but still..)

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Bias doesn't have to be a dirty word.

For example, I'm biased against CSAM and people who try to use apostrophes to pluralise words. And I'm quite happy with these biases!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

I totally agree. I was just taking a dig at OP. I don't think it's even possible to find anywhere without bias because each person brings with them a whole host of experience and memories that will bias them in one way or another

[–] [email protected] -5 points 8 months ago

I’m not right leaning at all, but neither piracy, nor anarchy are things I’m interested in.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I was pretty happy with lemmy.world, only jumped ship there because they take forever to update the instance. Mander is good for what you describe but very limited in scope, which happens to suit me since I am well aligned with the scope.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Lemmy.world is only .world in name. Reality is that it's very US centric.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I’m going to check that out. Thanks!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

To be clear I've actually never seen such a dispute there, so ymmv.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

kbin.social is pretty neutral, in my experience. There's communities here for both the left and the right. There's naturally going to be some clash in the comments from time to time, but it goes both ways fairly equally, from what I've seen.

That said, regardless of what instance you go with, your experience is going to be dictated largely by what communities you end up subscribing to.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Especially in social issues and politics there is no unbiased. In science you can often (not always) rely on evidence, which gets a lot of its own bias (yes, scientific papers have biases) removed by being peer reviewed and supported by many other scientists (hoping to cancel out the internal biases). Though in social issues and politics its very different. Sure, there are scientific papers here too, but they cannot give definite answers on what to do about it. You get a bunch of facts without definitiv reason (like the number of births in a country with only hints on what might (!) influence this number) and politics is often about how things should be, according to people. Very different people eith many different opinions on how things should be.

Probably you could look through the sidebars of many instancesn searching for one, that fits your own view of what is "unbiased". Though not clearly stating what that means socially and politicly can make this difficult.