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I teach at a public high school for "profoundly gifted" kids, and work pretty much exclusively with 16+ students. They're all very smart, and range from libs to somewhat better than normal libs (we had one open ML, but he graduated a few years ago). They all think Trump is a fucking dumbass. As with every election, a big crop of our seniors is going to be eligible to vote for the first time this year.

For the first time in the decade or so that I've worked here, pretty much every single one of them has said they don't intend to vote. They hate Biden almost as much as Trump, either because they condemn the genocide in Israel or just because they (correctly) believe that he has done nothing to actually benefit them. This is a population of kids who are much more politically engaged than your average teenager, and vote turnout in previous years has been high. I was actually very surprised at how many of them expressed contempt for the whole process this year, and indicated that they were totally uninterested in supporting Biden (and of course would not support Trump). I'm guessing this is part of a big trend that we're going to see this year, and I'm preparing myself for libs blaming young people--for whom Biden has done little but make their future demonstrably worse--for Democrats' loss.

I'm trying to convince all of them to vote anyway, just for some third party that speaks to them. Yesterday, we talked about PSL, Cornel West, the Greens, and Afroman for a bit. It would be incredibly funny to see young people reject Biden/Trump, and yet turn out in record numbers anyway. The narrative that kids are just too addicted to their phones to vote would fall apart. I'll keep working on it.

No real point here, just im-doing-my-part

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[–] [email protected] 78 points 8 months ago (3 children)

can you post this in /r/teachers or something? it would be pretty funny

[–] [email protected] 60 points 8 months ago

Oh there's an idea

[–] [email protected] 58 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The post would be deleted and/or he would be banned almost immediately.

Would still be hilarious though

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 8 months ago (6 children)

young people reject Biden/Trump, and yet turn out in record numbers anyway. The narrative that kids are just too addicted to their phones to vote would fall apart.

that's exactly when the democrats will start supporting the republican initiative to raise the voting age

[–] [email protected] 45 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Not unreasonable to believe they’ll limit voting to landowners at some point

I don’t know history but wasn’t that a thing way back when

[–] [email protected] 35 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

That was how it was when the country was founded. The founders believed that only people who owned land had a "stake" in the country, whereas I suppose the 90% of people who didn't were just cattle to be herded.

Oh shit I just realized. "Stakeholder capitalism" is supposed to be about getting the people affected by pollution making decisions about polluting corporations, but they're going to turn it into this.

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This may be a bad idea but maybe you could talk about Vermin Supreme and use that as an opportunity to explore the role of protest (& protest vote) and the limits of it, and things like critically analysing his platform.

You'd be able to do a cost breakdown of his "a pony for every American" policy and discuss what it's satirising both from a historical perspective and a contemporary perspective as well as looking at what sort of shifts in the budget or what sort of tax policy would need to exist to make this a reality. You could also talk about it from the perspective of economic implications as a sort of Equine New Deal angle too.

I think it would be fun but it would still teach a lot of serious lessons. If the students walk away realising that it's entirely within the realms of financial practicality to provide a pony for every American then you don't need to tell them that universal healthcare is also just as much of a possibility and you won't need to try to make a case for why presidential candidates claim that certain things are a financial impossibility.

If a pony for every American is completely possible then when someone tells that student "It isn't possible to provide housing for all the homeless people", they're just going to laugh in their faces because if they know that pony is possible then a home is even easier and more practical.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This is a fabulous idea. It would fit the radical politics class to a T. I'll add it to the schedule. Thanks!

[–] [email protected] 47 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Thank God you don't teach at at regular-ass public school.

I've been doing substitute teaching and good God every last little shit is a goddamn nazi.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 8 months ago

Thank God you don't teach at at regular-ass public school.

I've been doing substitute teaching and good God every last little shit is a goddamn nazi.

Amen to that. Thank you for your service, comrade. I'm sure it's incredibly hard, but you're making a difference even if it doesn't always feel like it.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 8 months ago

Looks like Dems will have to choose a more electable candidate

[–] [email protected] 42 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Damn lucky you! I work with kids at a decent but small public school sometimes and I've not gotten too political yet, but all I've heard is one kid being like "guys you gotta VOOT" (voting for anyone besides biden has not been mentioned, its implied)

I should get more political tbh, just to try and keep minds and eyes open if nothing else, but we're always busy so there isn't toooons of idle chat time

I do think I'd get fired if I wore a keffiyah but might fuck around and do it anyhow, I'm wearing a scarf already

[–] [email protected] 46 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I teach (among other things) a class on radical political movements, another one on climate science, and most of them know I'm a communist. I still boggle at how much the school lets me get away with.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That's cool as fuck

I just run an after school program that's decidedly not political or philosophical in topic but its a very high density of queer and neurodivergent kids involved recently which has been great

[–] [email protected] 37 points 8 months ago (1 children)

gold-communist

After school programs are essential services in today's society, especially for poor and marginalized groups. Thank you for your service.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Because they're gonna take up arms? anakin-padme-2

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