Big brain tech dude got yet another clueless take over at HackerNews etc? Here's the place to vent. Orange site, VC foolishness, all welcome.
This is not debate club. Unless it’s amusing debate.
For actually-good tech, you want our NotAwfulTech community
Just because a Twitter said it's over doesn't mean it's over. Prediction markets still think there's a ~1/5 chance of it being legit.
This is basically the epitome of postmodernism these people love dunking on. There's no external truth, only utterances. When prediction markets have hegemony, that will be Truth.
unlike you, science-believing simpletons, i get truth about the world from the only reliable source: weighted average of gut feelings of gamblers pretending to be day traders
HN user tarsinge putting it perfectly here
A based take on markets. I agree with this statement.
I nominate the term "orange poster" (and possibly "orange poaster" for the rats) henceforth
Maybe I should subscribe to this community. I've been falling further and further out of love with Hacker News with all sorts of tech illiterate / science illiterate takes that get lifted to the top. Its getting to the point that I assume any top ranked comment will be demonstrated absolutely wrong in 5 years
it’s very frankly well worth stepping out of the Y Combinator bubble. I dropped the site for anything other than as a target for sneering years ago because I started to see a lot of dangerous patterns emerge in the community (general scientific illiteracy is one thing, as you mentioned; for me, the site’s general undercurrent of thinly veiled racism got very hard to stomach).
on a more personal note, not being immersed in HN’s bad ideas did wonders for my mental health. the only thing I feel I really lost was the ability to easily get an audience for my open source projects, but there are other outlets for that.
yeah similar. I only skim the link source as a semi-aggregator of stuff (because it's where a lot of people will share shit), but even that needs significant filtering.
otherwise a strict policy of Don't Read The Comments
Allow me to sum up my relationship with the orange site with a lightly edited quote of Dennis Ritchie from The UNIX-HATERS Handbook:
Here is my metaphor: your ~~book~~ website is a pudding stuffed with apposite observations, many well-conceived. Like excrement, it contains enough undigested nuggets of nutrition to sustain ~~life for some~~ interest to computerniks like me. But it is not a tasty pie: it reeks too much of ~~contempt and of envy~~ silicon valley chauvinism.
Well put.
What kinda projects?
mostly Nix code lately: a flake that turns any desktop into an old Lisp machine, another flake that turns any desktop into a new Lisp machine (a Lisp-based workbench that enables system-wide recursive self-improvement), a module that mostly auto-configures a high performance windows gaming VM with dedicated hardware (one of the non-proton ways to game on Linux), and a flake that implements an efficient technique for templating/static website generation
That stuff is guaranteed karma bait on lobste.rs, just fyi
maybe… mostly I’m looking for non-toxic contributors, since these are all projects that do best with community input
Nix sounds very interesting tbh.
I recommend it! this notawfultech post links to a gentle introduction to Nix if you’d like to give it a try. awful.systems also runs on and is deployed by plain NixOS, mostly because it’s a lot of fun to work with in a way devops almost always isn’t
someone has to pick up the fallen mantle of , RIP
I dare wish for TechTakes to embody its spirit, not in the sense of replicating all of its problematic aspects, but possibly in the sense of using "a hackernews" and to a lesser extent "an internet" as a somewhat (very) derogatory pronoun.
after that Urbit thread of hackernewses incorrecting each other,
It is a very highly resistive poor quality material. Period. No point in fighting with the truth. Data have spoken.
The way this phrase is worded is weird in my opinion. It sounds more like a political statement rather than a scientific one.
This isn't the first unprofessional message from that Twitter account during the lk99 saga. Their biased tone makes them untrustworthy. Even more than anime girl et al
I keep seeing posts exactly like these from the orange site’s top minds. it’s not doing what they think it’s doing for their reputation as science understanders. shit, anyone who’s hung around in a lab when a result won’t replicate knows the tone of that tweet
superior rationalists trained by EY are obviously better than anyone else, how they dare to come against them with some flimsy "empirical evidence" smh
it's like with metamed but without the actual thing
and also, that alleged levitation video on bilibili, author already admitted that it was fraud. wonder how orange site reacts to that development https://www.tomshardware.com/news/lk-99-video-fraud-taken-down
the orange site seems to have flagged the linked thread to death, but check out the currently active thread for more of the worst takes available on why this having all of the hallmarks of scientific fraud doesn’t matter, how dare we make value judgements
Haha it's [flagged] now. The fragile orangicity :D
Hard to say if it's violent disagreement or that the link is perceived to be "broken".
that thread is mind numbingly stupid even for HN
I'm wryly amused that of all people, the rats putting their dismal hopes into the prediction markets not going to zero are the ones screeching about scientism.
This Twitter post from the guy who was synthesising the stuff in the US seems convincing: https://twitter.com/andrewmccalip/status/1689476909208600576
Not a superconductor - the hints of superconductor-like properties were due to a combination of iron contamination in the Pb forming iron fragments which (surprise!) show ferromagnetism & Copper Sulphide which shows a very similarly anomalous temp/resistivity profile (but is not a superconductor).
The most likely outcome (i.e., not a superconductor, lab error due to honest scientists being fooled by their own experiments) seems to be probably the true one.
The Russian grifter was weird.
Looking through the threads most people only read the last tweet in the x thread and didn't see the link to evidence.
Ignoring HN illiteracy that might be mostly on Elon Musk. Xitter [ˈʃɪɾ.ɚ] as of now doesn't show the full thread unless you're logged in. Surely this will have no impact on its (already inflated) perceived credibility and usefulness as a news source.