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When Al-Qaeda themselves claimed responsibility, even with overwhelming evidence aside? Why were so many people still reluctant, I was researching about this stuff and was shocked to see people who I respect a lot believe in this

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

RIP Trevor Moore

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

Because critical thinking never intersects with conspiracy theories.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

People are emotion driven. The idea of a conspiracy is somehow more soothing to them than a chaotic world where no one's really in control. Also many people are, frankly, fragile cowards, and the idea of admitting they are wrong is too much for their ego to take.

People's beliefs are social. Once they're in a social group that believes something, they're very unlikely to change. It's not even wholly conscious. But if someone's in conspiracy circles, abandoning the beliefs means losing all those friends. That feels like Danger to the brain, and most people will reject it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

For me its Tower 7 falling. Nothing hit it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

Because the collapse of the towers looked like a controlled demolition. It wasn't, but it looked like it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (9 children)

I've argued with multiple people who swear the war in Iraq was over 9/11.

People are just fucking stupid

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Sometimes there’s enough ambiguity around an event that any attempted exact reconstruction will likely be wrong in some details. Some people can’t accept that ambiguity, and take the lack of a single, definitively-proven version as evidence that the “real” version was suppressed.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Reading all the comments here, I think that it is wild that anything other than what the US says is a ‘conspiracy theory’, what I can gather from this is that no one probably has any concrete idea about who was responsible, so there might be different views, but apparently any other view other than what the US tells you is a ‘conspiracy theory’

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

Operation Northwoods

Wtc7 a building not hit by a plane collapsed. With there being a video of the leaseholder saying they brought it down on purpose because it was badly damaged. Controlled demolition takes weeks of planning.

Plus the BBC reported on wtc7 collapsing too early, the building was still visible in reporters background

It is the only day in history that 3 steel buildings collapsed because of fire

Firefighters reported explosions going off in the basement just before the plane hit the building

Reports of pools of melting iron which allegedly can only be caused by thermite. Thermite would also be the reason why there was so much dust

The Pentagon; no good footage of the plane hitting. All the camera footage of surrounding business have been confiscated

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

https://www.facebook.com/rallyforjustice/videos/wtc-owner-larry-silverstein-gave-order-to-pull-building-7/1313503455744806/&ved=2ahUKEwjgpeCxsqqEAxXs9wIHHRVgDdcQo7QBegQICBAB&usg=AOvVaw2RmpBAKFmsL8MRumJ8Un3H

https://benthamopen.com/DOWNLOAD-PDF/TOCPJ-2-7/&ved=2ahUKEwi7xo3QsaqEAxUJ7AIHHYKSCZgQFnoECC0QAQ&usg=AOvVaw0-5vVgUAuvoyabZ6icDfJ_

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

Reports of pools of melting iron which allegedly can only be caused by thermite.

You can only melt iron with thermite? What?!

Thermite would also be the reason why there was so much dust

Yeah, why else would there be dust...around a gigantic building that collapsed.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

For those who actually believe in these theories or are uninformed about them, consider reading this, which is backed up by sourcing and debunks every common 9/11 theory. https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/9/11

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

"Controlled demolitions take weeks of planning" because under normal circumstances, the risk of waiting is not that high. That doesn't mean that subject matter experts aren't capable of making an intelligent plan in a short period when a building is catastrophically damaged in heavily populated area where waiting can very easily result in more damage and more risk of casualties.

As for "melting iron", if you're talking eyewitnesses before the demolition, they have no idea what was melted. If you're talking after, no shit they used demolition-grade explosives. It was a fucking skyscraper in the middle of a massively populated city that wasn't stable. It had to come down.

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