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https://www.reddit.com/r/Piracy/comments/14knc6t/got_r4d_for_pirating_someone_elses_john_oliver_so/

Pirates want to stay on Reddit? This is the last group I had expected to have such a reaction, but here we are. Yes, the mod could have worded it better, but these people actually want to stick around on Reddit.

I personally find Lemmy to be a perfectly viable alternative to Reddit for such subs. I wonder about the reasons why these people still don't want to move.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I tried to explain to one of these people Lemmy for piracy alone is easy, it's apparently more complicated to use, setup, or understamd than his current pirating methods or any methods he's ever done.

If it requires more than 4 button clicks and 10 minutes, you lose the lazy, disinterested, and unmotivated people.

Most people here are going to be pirates who were burned CDs and jacked channels or people who were raised by people burned CDs and learned about pirate bay before geometry (hi), im sure this community will cause many to pick up pirating, unfortunately, I think the loss is due to people who havent truly explored the internet/computers and checked out what piracy is.

Wait until reddit kills the piracy forums outright, they are going for an IPO, they will either clean house right before, or shortly after going public, pirates that want simple info will pay Netflix/Hulu, the ones who get more motivated will remember or find Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

@demonicbullet @MigratingtoLemmy personally I’m hoping this happens. I want Reddit, and more so the ceo, to burn. He killed off Apollo on purpose and then just straight up lied about it basically told all the users fuck off as well. It fucking sucks. In no way is this okay.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

They simply have no spine?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Because they are very naughty

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There are pirates as in ideologically cultured anarchists and there are simpletons chasing releases and demanding stuff as if they were entitled to receive it grr

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Yeah moving to a federation alternative seems like it would be extremely welcomed in that type of community. They would have a lot more freedom in posting whatever content they wanted without being bothered by the reddit admins.

Pirates are notoriously good at finding the content they are looking for, so a "hidden" community on Lemmy would still thrive.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (5 children)
  1. Lemmy still has the same inherent drawbacks of Reddit, but now the mods have complete power with no admin oversight whatsoever.

  2. The moderators of a community have no right to kill it. If people wish to leave for Lemmy, I welcome it. if the other sub died naturally, I'd migrate over here myself (the same way I migrated to Reddit gradually through dozens of forums dying naturally)

Forcefully trying to kill the sub serves no purpose other than to centralize piracy knowledge, benefit Reddits IPO by getting rid of a hated subreddit, and allow more mod censorship. Also, Lemmy isn't indexed by google, so you're fully reliant on the inbuilt search unlike Reddit. (which makes Lemmy less useful for finding specific content)

  1. Lemmy is still in it's early stages. I'm a part of 1k+ communities on Reddit and fewer than half have a prescence on Lemmy or an equivalent.

  2. Dearth of NSFW content. (I mean really, it's kinda sad. Even twitter has more regularly posted nsfw than Lemmy.)

  3. UI and UX are garbage. I've had more 503s on Lemmy the past week than Reddit the past 8 years. The new reddit app looks & feels better than any available android app for Lemmy. (and honestly on desktop too)

  4. Why 'move' ?

If the mods don't want to moderate the old sub, then pass the torch.

Considering piracy's focus on decentralization, y'all are oddly supportive of centralizing your content on a Lemmy instance hosted by one guy.

Which brings me to:

  1. The person who hosts the Lemmy instance can edit the database directly just like Spez can with Reddit. You're trading centralized power around admins for centralized power around the server host. So essentially just downgrading to the old forum days.. (you know, the stuff Reddit replaced in large part.)

I'm sure this will get downvoted to hell, but these are a few reasons why the Reddit community shouldn't be killed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Everything you say makes sense, but a pirate pledges loyalty to no man and always expects to jump ship when the time is upon them. Such is life on the high seas!

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

If the community as a whole feels that way, then discussion in the subreddit will naturally die off.

So why does it need to be done forcefully with a rule? Why force people to migrate? If Lemmy is so compelling, everyone will naturally switch over and it'll win out.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

yesthe UI/UX is bad, but i am pationt enough to wait the few weeks until alternativev pop up that really should be nice. Like Sync. I know there is an 3 party website already but i did not try to really use it and forgot the url

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Then go open up your own sub if you want a piracy sub on reddit that much. You think it's the name that makes a sub special? Could be /r/shitideas and if you made it focused on piracy it'd be a piracy sub. Acting like there's something stopping you from starting up your own. If anything it being /r/shitideas would make it easier to go under the radar and attract less attention from being shut down. Step up if you want it.

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[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Because I dislike being told what to do. Everyone here is "Get off Reddit, move over here. You're not a real pirate if you stay on Reddit." and it's incredibly annoying. Fuck you, I'll go where I want.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

And of you hang around a hostile place or act hostile in a welcoming place, you'll get what you earn. 💩

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