It is going to take decades for Boeing to regain their credibility. Even if this is “minor,” it’s still another hit on their reputation.
this post was submitted on 05 Feb 2024
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There's no option. Boeing is too big to fail. Nothing will change. Us tax dollars will make sure of that.
Exactly. What is the alternative? The US cannot accept losses to Airbus and Embraer cannot compete in certain size classes.
Too big to fail = to big to leave to corporate capitalism. If it is so important to our nation, then nationalize it.
What is the alternative?
Nationalization.
Good.
The 737max is a terrible airplane.
I hope they wise up before it kills the company and we have to fly on something else.
So anyway...
The 737 Max is what it is because the companies culture has failed to prioritize engineering and safety over profits. You can see this in soo many of their other products I.e. Star Liner, Dream Liner, etc.
I would have no faith in a new clean sheet design of the 737 because the company still has the same people making decisions at the top.
If I see the board and the C-Suite being replaced with people with engineering backgrounds, then I may start to think differently.
How much more does the government allow this company to screw up before they force new and competent management to oversee this shitshow? It’s getting ridiculous.
I like Biden and all, but for corporations like this? Probably an unlimited amount.
I’m beginning to think accountants might suck at building planes.
I'm not flying Boeing, period
I'm not flying period unless it's an emergency or there's no other practical way to get where I'm going.
Otherwise I'll just drive.
Unsafeness of Boeings aside, it's overpriced, loud, uncomfortable, and just generally an unpleasant experience. I don't love being in a car, but at least I can do things like move my arm more than two inches to the right or just get out and stretch my legs for a few minutes.
I've been riding the train as often as it's available and I find it far more enjoyable than either. I wish there were more routes
The 787, 777, 767, 757, 747, and even pre-Max 737NGs are fine aircraft. You want to worry about the Max, fine. But otherwise, your statement is not smart.
Why would I fly one of those old ass planes when I could ride on an Airbus that's new and doesn't have the safety issues of new Boeings?
I'll return when they kick the mcdickhead executives.
There are plenty of "old ass" Airbus planes out there. And it's not like Airbus planes never crash.
And guess who makes a ton of Airbus components? Spirit, the company that has caused nearly all of the recent 737 issues.
Spirit manufactured and supplied the door assemblies that Boeing improperly installed.
Spirit installs the plugs before delivering to Boeing. If Boeing identifies issues with the plugs after they get the fuselages, it's Spirit crews that are responsible for fixing them.
They also install the pressure bulkheads that they were misdrilling, which they knew were a problem for a year and covered up. They have a history of punishing internal inspectors for identifying problems.
Boeing has been dropping the ball on catching these issues, but with how many different subtle things Spirit has been screwing up, it's likely Airbus has missed things too. Spirit's management has no place in safety-critical industry.
Sorry, you're not going to convince me to get on a Boeing. My airport only has 37s and maxes, so it's not like I have a choice in which Boeing I use
It will hurt, but boing needs to announce a clean sheet narrowbody and end the 737Max. Put engineering 100% in charge of the development. Don’t give in to the sunk cost fallacy.
Trying to slap even wider and higher bypass engines and maintain a common type rating was a cost saving measure that has blown up in their face.