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[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (4 children)

What’s the best or recommended way to test out Plasma 6 RC2?

And

What has been the hardest problem to solve moving to Qt6?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What’s the best or recommended way to test out Plasma 6 RC2?

Neon Testing in a VM (or on bare metal if you're adventurous). Arch with the kde-unstable repo is good too, but that also includes a snapshot of the unreleased Qt 6.7 which introduces more bugs.

What has been the hardest problem to solve moving to Qt6?

Personally I'd have to say the large number of API and behavior changes in QtQuick that Qt 6 has brought. We use QtQuick very heavily throughout KDE, so this has required a lot of mandatory porting work, more than in our QtWidgets-based software. And there have even been changes between Qt 6.5, 6.6, and 6.7, so it's still a bit of a moving target

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Thanks for the answers! You and the others on the team are doing a fantastic job of convincing me to not use any other desktop :)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

What’s the best or recommended way to test out Plasma 6 RC2?

See also: https://community.kde.org/Plasma/Plasma_6#How_to_use/test_it

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Firstly love the window tiling system. Have you thought about something similar to magnet which allows a window to fill 2 '/columns of the grid simultaneously?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (6 children)

There's been an undercurrent of discussion I've noticed (and tend to agree) that C++ is not the most friendly language for new/outside contributors, even the newer standard you use. Is there an effort to bring first class support/documentation for another higher level language as well? e.g dart/ruby/lua/python/javascript/C#/go (whatever is most feasible)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

Some of the plasmoids are implemented in JavaScript I think, but personally I'd love to see Dart as a consideration for that "high level language" choice.

It already does a great job at gluing high level rendering abstractions with low level rendering libraries within the Flutter SDK, and supports a lot of useful paradigms in UI development such as first class functions, null safety, enhanced enumerators, etc.

I can see why it's given a wide berth from FOSS since it's associated with JavaScript AND Google (two controversial terms in programming to say the least...) but working with it daily really does remind me how well it lends itself to frontend development.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Thanks for the AUA and all the work on KDE, especially with plasma 6.

It's not really a question, more of a request, but is it possible you all could make the kwrite/kate situation less complicated? I don't mind having options, but from what I understand, you can only have them both installed (or none), not one or the other. Also, if I want Kwrite to be the default editor, I have to go into every supported mime type (file association) and switch the default (instead of just once for all of them).

My preference would be that there's only one text editor (to cause less confusion; maybe just have a toggle button to switch between basic and advanced modes), and to make it easier to change file associations for common file types (like text files, video files, music, images, etc.); even if it's technically a different file format, e.g. .mp4 vs .mkv for videos, I should only have to set the default app once.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

@Bro666 With the transition from QT5 to 6 and Plasma 5.27's implementation of wp-fractional-scale-v1, will most KDE apps now be able to fractionally scale without using the upscale-downscale method? (Or in other words, how QT apps fractionally scale under X11)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

@davidre While KDE doesn't oversee LibreOffice development, since they also have a QT6 backend for their UI, might they also benefit from this? Currently fractional scaled LibreOffice under Wayland with the QT5 backend is extremely laggy, presumably due to the upscale-downscale method.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

In regards to theming, there's one thing that sticks like a sore thumb, and it's the fact that most if not all themes for Qt currently use the Kvantum engine ( github.com/tsujan/Kvantum ), which sadly is not well integrated with KDE in things as basic as supporting Plasma's color schemes and dynamic icons. Do you have any plans to collaborate directly with Kvantum, or with any other particular theming team other than Breeze's?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

If it isn't too late, What are your personal favourite features from Plasma 6?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I haven't used KDE in a long time because I've been keeping things simple and just accepting most defaults on Pop!_OS.

What would be the most compelling reason, in your opinion, to make the effort to try out KDE?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Are there any big things that you couldn’t squeeze in time for the mega release, but can’t wait to have them implemented in Plasma 6.1 later this year?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What is the plan for rolling the mega release out to Neon users?

Are there plans for updating Neon once the 22.04 lts is released?

Thanks

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Neon unstable/testing already contains the relevant branches. Neon user edition should receive it as normal when it releases. When Neon will update its Ubuntnu base is a question for Neon developers.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Thank you! Will switch my laptop over to testing tonight and see how it goes

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Thanks for the AUA! Really excited about the Mega Release and even more for the future after!

My question is regarding Nate's original proposal for the KDE goals "Professionalise KDE" if I remember well. Now, I know that the goal was changed and the scope reduced to "Automatization and Systematization" but I truly believe the original proposal's spirit could have a huge impact on the whole ecosystem.

For example I remember the proposal contained the plan to hire a person working "full time" on actively finding fundings and grants and applying to them. We got the Mega Release fundraiser but for example on the forum I found https://discuss.kde.org/t/formalities-for-stf-funding/9916 and it looks like a waste of potential to not apply for grants because no one has the time to do so.

Is there anyone at KDE, maybe among the Board, who is still trying to make the "Professionalise KDE" happen?

P.S. I know you guys just want to reach the biggest amount of people but maybe we could start having the AUAs/AMAs and similar, only on Lemmy and a post on Reddit saying that the event will be hosted on Lemmy. This would make the Lemmy community the official one and could convince people to make the switch for the "exclusive content". It's not a critic, just want to see Lemmy prosper.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

I'm someone that uses sway because I really like to keep my workflow as keyboard driven as possible. However, I do not necessarily need the minimalism of sway and sometimes miss the more polished experience of a full DE. Are there ways to configure Plasma to give me a sway-like keyboard-driven flow while still getting some of the other benefits of Plasma?

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