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I'm helping a family member build a pc. He wanted to use Windows because "Linux can't play games" despite me having a perfectly good gaming laptop running Linux that runs all my games, even graphically intensive ones.

2 days later, no game has been played yet. We can't even get steam to start. I even installed Arch on a sata ssd I donated just to verify the pc parts actually work (took less than an hour). It took 1 and a half days to even get the Windows 11 installer to get past like the 3rd screen.

Fucking fuck. Dealing with all this fucking bullshit is far worse than not being able to play a few trashy anticheat pay 2 win games. The anti Linux circlejerk is real.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hehe, installed both nobara and windows on my brothers pc. Nobara installed without issues, immediately usable with wifi. Windows didn't recognize drives at first, had to reflash the iso, i assume that was an iso issue not necessarily windows but you never know. Then, 0 internet, no wifi drivers :) Hotspot with phone and cable in order to make the pc have basic functionality, the true windows experience.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I love Nobara and will keep using it for my Linux needs but you must have got a borked .iso cause I've built windows machines for all of my friends from scratch and never once had an issue like that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Easy of use and general look and feel have always been less than ideal on windows. The real advantage of windows over Linux is hardware support. And don't say it all just works, because it does not.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Even just installing windows is pretty bad. They include jack shit for default wifi drivers and won't let you complete the installation without an internet connection (and a stupid Microsoft account to complete their data mining 1984 tracking system) unless you use secret command line bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

When I tried the early free upgrade from Window 10 to 11, half my games wouldn't work, and I couldn't fix the UI to what was comfortable. Also all the control panels had another layer of simplified facade before it would let me see the Windows XP control panel window.

Also the games that worked had a significant framerate drop.

I swtched back after a day of frustration and every once in a while my Windows 10 nags me to try upgrading again because Win11 is much better.

I need to stop being a coward and make my switch to Linux.

I'll need to find an equivalent to Autohotkey though. I'm left handed and depend on keyboard profiles to play games.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Never used W11. W10 works about 100x better than Linux and doesn't require me to memorize commands to punch into the CLI for mundane tasks or have 11 different types of program install processes.

I daily Linux for privacy reasons but you're delusional if you think Linux is easier to use.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think windows 11 wouldn't be nearly as bad if it didn't force an online account on you. Yes, I know there are sometimes ways around it, but they are not for the average user to pull off. Especially the OEM laptops that ship win11 s-mode, where if it's not the right patch, you gotta do bios edits, registry edits.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's literally two clicks to make a local account instead.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, no it's not. Maybe with a standalone iso. But an out of box machine from the majore OEMs like Dell and HP, it's not. Even if you never connect it to the Internet it can be nearly impossible to get around.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's just not true to my personal experience with over 200 devices from Dell and Lenovo. Especially concerning the not connecting to internet. That is literally the only step you need to take if the OEM install wants to force a MS account to be able to install local accounts. "Nearly impossible" is absolute hyperbole and you know it.

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