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[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

I don't really care about US politics, but I find data quite interesting. Now I would not say this is outright false, but highly misleading. A quick search led me to this csv of to whom minors were released: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/nytimes/hhs-child-migrant-data/main/data.csv Running a quick script on my phone, 41.7% of the 553321 children were released to a parent, and further 46.7% to a blood relative (brother/sister, aunt/uncle, grandma/pa). So only 64340 were in the other category, which includes family friends, other distant relatives and unrelated sponsors.

Now I will not go into if 64 thousand children is "good enough", or doubt that many of them work. But it is not a problem exclusive to unacompanied minors. I would think that if parents force their children to work, that is regardless of if they came alone or with their parents.

I would say the tweet is highly missleading, because it makes it seem as if there are 400 thousand abandoned migrant children working in the US.

An other fact to consider, is that in 1860 the US population was 34 millions while it currently sits at 335 million. So comparassions of absolute numbers in a historical context are usually not a good idea.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Not sure you get what unaccompanied minor means.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

What does it mean here?

[–] [email protected] -5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Every country seperates arrested minors from arrested adults. How is that any different?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Because in this case the separations were not a side effect of an otherwise legitimate policy, but were intentionally designed to deter people of particular racial and ethnic backgrounds from seeking asylum.

That amounts to a crime against humanity.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yes, anything sounds worse when you just make up insane lies about it

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Interesting metacommentary

[–] [email protected] -5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Are in favor of putting children and infants into federal jails?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

No, I'm a compassionate human being.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

What a completely brain dead take