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    [–] [email protected] 46 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    I haven't updated my Manjaro install for past 2 months. Things are going to be crazy.

    [–] [email protected] 38 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    I haven't updated my Arch install for almost 2 months. Things are going to be... seemless, probably. I do this all the time. It never breaks.

    [–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago

    The worst I did, a computer without turning it on and not being updated for 2 years. Long long ago. I think I even got a huge change, don't remember if it was a big kernel version or the change to systemd. It basically just worked and there was a single thing I had to do that was in the news page.

    Arch works fine for those who know how to read.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    I just updated. No issues this time. I just had to re-compile dump1090 and WSJT-X, but that's expected. Dependencies.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

    Well, looks like I forgot for another month, but 3 months was no problem either.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

    Last bug I had was a power management daemon bug in kde and it was fixed the next day. It was also a desktop so only brightness control was broken (whoop-de-do My brightness didn't work on a desktop).

    Not to bad after 6 months from when I first switched from Windows.

    [–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    I haven't updated my manjaro install for 35 seconds. Things are going to be crazy.

    ./s

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

    I haven't updated my Gebtoo install for past 6 months. Things are going to take a bit longer then usual.

    But since there are binaries available now, it may go faster.

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    It's crazy hearing all the Windows hate but then hearing this.

    This is why I prefer friendly and stable distros, I don't have time to fix Linux every month.

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    I‘m having (minor) trouble with updating my machine about every year or two. That’s exactly the same experience I had with Ubuntu, when installing a major upgrade every 1-2 years. The only difference is, that with Ubuntu I had 20 broken packages and no clue what to do. Now I have trouble with one or two packages and the solution can be found right on the homepage of my Distro.

    The only thing that breaks my workflow with every update is Gnome. But there’s a simple solution for that: Don’t use Gnome.

    I use Arch by the way.

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

    I do have time to fix Linux every 2 years

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    That's how I broke my manjaro on 2 PCs at once :D now I'm going to update my fedora for the first time in like 3 months and see what happens

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

    I broke it the same way years ago! And now I haven't updated openSUSE Tumbleweed in 4 months and I know I won't have any issues when I do, there's no rush!

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

    I keep meaning to set up timemachine but just roll the dice every few weeks. I think it bit me once and it was only for the weirdo wifi driver I needed and installed the lazy way.

    The blog is probably smart to check if you see anything weird in pamac but otherwise I've either been very lucky or things have been pretty stable.

    [–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    Oh I never saw this one . Got a good laugh! Nice post!

    [–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)
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    [–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    thank you for posting that here! love your stuff and wouldn't have found it otherwise.

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

    I'm grateful!

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)
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    [–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    I update my Arch when:
    a) I want to install new software
    b) Arch news mentions an update requiring manual intervention

    So, about once a month. Takes 5 minutes including a reboot and I haven't had the slightest issue so far.

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    This was way more complex 10 years ago. I quited arch after the second update broke my system and I had to fix it for a week

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    Linux-based systems in general have matured to a point where it's pretty painless regardless of distro.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

    Yeah and I love it. For my part I am very happy with debian-testing

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    Updates requiring manual intervention? I use Ubuntu LTS btw.

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    It's a rolling release distro. It continuously changes. So sometimes there are changes that can't be resolved just by updating packages.
    During the past year, there were half a dozen changes that required running an additional terminal command before an update.
    https://archlinux.org/news/ mentions when that is the case, and there's also several ways to get a warning before you update.

    On the other hand, you never have to do an upgrade from one release version to the next (which has never once worked for me on Ubuntu LTS).

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    Huh. I've been running Arch for over 7 years and I don't think I've ever run an additional command before updating. Simply just updating has worked for me.

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

    It might have worked for you, but you might have accumulated some outdated cruft and missed replacements of old packages that way.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    I update like 3 times a day on fedora. Does this count as 'rolling release'?

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    Technically it's semi rolling. Desktops are frozen but other stuff is not

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

    not the spins though (at least no KDE.)

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)
    [–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

    Pretty stable even tho it is rolling release 🧐🍷

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

    Keep it rolling!

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

    laughs in Debian

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

    Laughs in raspberry pi os