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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
  • Die in a few weeks? No
  • Get more users than reddit? No
  • Be a place in the long run for privacy minded people to escape corporatism and have discussions about any topic? Yes
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Let's be real, most of the growth of Reddit over the last 5 or so years haven't been the type of folks generating good content and discussion anyway. Even if Lemmy gets like 1% of the userbase this place is going to thrive.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It was here before the Reddit implosion, will be after. Question is, will you be?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

This place has existed for a lot longer than the last month.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Hmmm the main question is whether it can get it's content to show up in search results - this being the main selling point of Reddit and other platforms.

Right now, if you help someone fix an issue it's pretty much walled in and unavailable.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I was talking to my wife about this.

Today I can search "whatever reddit", but with Lemmy-like I have no idea how, since it's not centralized.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

im seeing content from both my instance and beehaw's in google's results. stands to reason every instance is in there. I expect that the software likely needs optimizations before everything is properly indexed. before reddit google simply indexed thousands of phpbb and invision boards.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Personal opinion: activity will spike around now, then plateau not much lower than its peak. It'll probably never be as popular as Reddit. I imagine most people will run into some minor inconvenience, then never try to use it again, and the rest of us will be here for years.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I guess a big spike is still ahead, which will be around Saturday, once the 3rd party reddit apps shut down for good.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I think and hope the fediverse will thrive in the years to come. It's the only way for us users to keep control over the platforms we use and feed.

It's time for the healthier internet we deserve. Networks like Facebook and Twitter have pushed toxic content to their users solely on the purpose of creating engagement. The World would be a very different place if that content had been moderated correctly instead of being pushed toward suggestible population.

I won't go back.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Two things to bear in mind...

  1. Lemmy existed before this current reddit fiasco, so it will exist after

  2. there are a critical mass of users now, and imo the userbase will continue to grow, with more and more unique content added

  3. Android / iOS apps are out, and in development. Mod tools are coming (iirc). As fediverse becomes less technical / easier to use, it's only going to attract more people

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lemmy was here before Reddit and it’ll be around for a long time.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Presumably you mean Lemmy was here before the recent reddit implosion

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Correct. Good catch.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reddit is dead to me now. Terrible media players. Bulky unoptomized Javascript in browser. Slow load times. Just trash content now.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

These were a great reason for third party apps like Apollo. It's also why I'll be seriously curtailing my use of reddit at the end of the month.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm ride or die once my 3PA stops working, so I hope it sticks around.

Gotta say, it would be more attractive if every other post wasn't a meta post about the platform and/or reddit. I hope we get some bots capable of ripping reddit posts and slapping them into Lemmy communities. As much as I'd like to pretend I'm a man of culture, sometimes I want shitposts and Tiktok reposts of someone's dog being stupid...

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I like it. It's not reddit and I like that about it most. I think it will stay and grow. I think we know what we don't want now and Lemmy could just be it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I’m having fun here and it’s scratching my online discussion itch. I’ve barely been back to Reddit and when Apollo dies I think I will not go back at all. 16 years on Reddit and almost 300K karma.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

If lemmy can get the search algorithm to work well, it'll be good for a decent while I think... I hope for the sake of the internet everything needs to have some form of competition, and if Lemmy truly becomes the new reddit, hopefully we all learn what they did wrong and can make it better so that we as a collective have the best website/forum/memebase that's humanly possible

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I don't think it'll die... but it is a community that needs to be built basically from the ground up, while both the Lemmy/fediverse backend technology and infrastructure are actively being developed. Reddit refugees who want a drop-in alternative to doomscroll will probably be the first to leave.

The success or failure will be determined by the number of people willing to make an effort to post. Whether Lemmy (or the fediverse in general) will exceed the numbers of other services... I doubt it, but we wouldn't be here if we only cared about numbers.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

When Reddit forces "new Reddit" is when the real migration will occur. Reddit is dying more and more every day.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Define "a few weeks"

The blackout started 12-06 which is 2 + weeks ago.

Lemmy and Kbin are still here and I see no sign of it slowing down. I see much more posts with more engagement which is a good thing.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Mate, it wasn't just created. This site has been around for a while

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I hope they're going to find a way to make the whole federation thing less messy, otherwise I don't think Lemmy is going to be as big as Reddit ever was.

Also they have to solve the front page, where new topics are loading in from the TOP pushing everything down. Really annoying.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

It will last. I plan to stay here. I hope everyone else does too. Even if Reddit totally went completely back to how it was, I deleted my account because I don't like their attitude. I also find the conversation better here. And it's all open source, which is always my preference.

Same with Twitter, I still use it to follow F1 drivers but that's it. 99% of my socials is done on Mastodon now as there are more people there who share my interests and it's open source.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Lemmy has been around for quite a while, well before any of the recent issues. The userbase will probably die back once people get bored and go back to Reddit but some of us will still be here

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think the entry barrier is still higher than reddit. So I doubt we'll see reddit users migrate by the millions because not everyone believes in free and open platforms like most of us do. But I'm excited to see what happens on Saturday when 3rd party apps shut down.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

While everyone wants to constantly cry about it not being Reddit - the fact that people are flocking here hand over fist over the more direct 1 for 1 Reddit clones shows that people do understand that we need to go back to a more decentralized web. Even if this doesn't hit critical Reddit size mass, there's enough of us to keep each other company ❤️

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lemmy will last because it was already around. I don't think it will die in a few weeks. Today is my first day using it and I love it. I'm sure anyone who tries it will like it, too.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Been here a week or so - definitely different but I'm enjoying it. Less mindless scrolling, just good chats.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Lemmy is really the only solution because it is becoming as indepth as reddit is/was. What sucks is it will still be like a splinternet situation, having to spread all of our solutions across the internet.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I think it will grow some more when apps stop working on July 1, especially lemmy.world.

After that, we’ll see how erratic and Musk-esque the reddit leadership becomes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe, but I think that the branding of the "fediverse" + difficulty of use will make it unlikely to surpass reddit or any other alternatives. It will almost certainly still be around for years to come, but I doubt it'll be much more than niche, despite me hoping for the contrary.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I think it's here to stay, and it makes me hopeful that we can get a somewhat mainstream version of the Internet as originally envisioned. The corpo hellscape we have right now is garbage.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Definitely will stay around, yet, realistically speaking, I don't have much expectations about this endeavor even scratching reddit's monopoly in the next 1 ~ 3 years (I hope I'm mistaken), who knows what will happen in 10 or 20

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

While I plan on using this platform for the forseeable future - I don't have too high hopes.

I think it will probably go the way Mastodon is going. A few weeks of being "hot", then dropping off until it's pretty much business as usual, as it was before being the hot new thing. Don't get me wrong, I want Lemmy to succeed and replace reddit, but I wouldn't bet money on it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think people will vent and quite a decent percentage will return to reddit eventually. Like it happened with twitter since Elon did his thing. But lemmy will stay. It has been here before all the people migrated from reddit and the fediverse in general will keep having a right to exist. And it will.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I belive that enough critical mass has been reached for Lemmy to stick around. I sure as hell am not going back to reddit. But, to see Lemmy grow, I feel it would be better for users to be spread out across multiple instance.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I’ll certainly be staying. I like it here so far!

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