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Across American culture, politics, and even business, expressions of antisemitism have grown louder in recent years. It’s not just high profile statements made by the rapper Ye and basketball star Kyrie Irving or politicians increasingly cozying up to White supremacist groups. Incidents of antisemitic harassment, vandalism and assault reached a 42 year high in 2021, the most recent year with available data, according the Anti-Defamation League. And there’s evidence that discrimination is seeping into the workplace, too. 

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 10 months ago

I know that antisemitism is on the rise, but the authors of the article seemed to suggest that Judaism is the primary target of discrimination as shown in these studies. However, the article even points out that Muslims experience it even more, yet this is the last time the authors speak on that.

"A 2022 study published in the academic journal Socius surveying 11,356 workers of all faiths found that more than half of the Jewish respondents experienced discrimination at work — a higher percentage than any other religious group, besides Muslims. "

If you look at the study which is the source cited by the article the topic of religious discrimination gets much MUCH wider.

Here's a some quotes from the study that I'm sure will generate some conversation here:

"The fact that Muslims receive significant attention in workplace discrimination literature may speak to the frequency and intensity with which Muslims experience discrimination in the workplace vis-à-vis other minority religious groups."

"Finally, recent research suggests that evangelical Christians are especially likely to perceive an increase of religious hatred and social persecution in the United States more broadly over the past decades, even if actual levels of hostility have not increased"

"An African American mainline Protestant woman from Alabama reflected that early on in her work life, about 15 years ago, when she was an office manager of a department store, her coworkers would “insult” her by calling her “Holy Roller.”9 This incident seemed to be precipitated by the fact that she would be “turning my Christian music on to encourage myself and to encourage others.” The fact that her non-Christian colleagues did not appreciate this illustrates how this respondent may also have been an enactor of unwelcome behavior in the workplace."

"Several of the evangelical respondents described above shared that a sense of hostility or unwelcome at work was significant enough to inform their choice to leave their jobs or to apply for specific jobs. Surprisingly, however, the only respondents in our entire sample who described religious discrimination in terms of preventing career advancement or resulting in firing were white evangelical men. "

"In a final example of the complicated nature of evangelical narratives, a white evangelical man who worked as a truck driver in Ohio described how he believed he was “let go” from a previous job after he requested not to work on Sunday mornings.36 Although he acknowledged this may have been because of scheduling needs, he also felt that those who made the decision “did not like me, because I was a Christian.” However, paradoxically, the same respondent shared later that he felt that Muslims in his current workplace “use their faith as a way—as a victim card, to get whatever they want,” including changes to shifts for religious reasons."

[–] [email protected] 30 points 10 months ago (1 children)

As a hiring manager I don't want anyone who's religion is their whole identity to advance in the hiring process I don't give a fuck if you're Christian Jewish Muslim Hindi whatever I care if you're a good worker and if you make whatever imaginary sky entity you worship more important at the workplace then the actual work we do, I don't want you on my team.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

That's not what this is about. It's about people who simply are Jewish.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

According to the actual study, it impacts all religions. This is a crappy clickbait article that decided to mention the Jewish bit and ignore all the others.

Also, the study itself is of extremely dubious veracity

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Regardless, that shouldn't be something a hiring manager should even be aware of.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

The study: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/23780231211070920

Edit: Wrong link. Here is the real one. https://www.resumebuilder.com/1-in-4-hiring-managers-say-they-are-less-likely-to-move-forward-with-jewish-applicants/

This thing might be true, but it’s not peer reviewed, is being used to advertise a product, and appears to be getting a lot of heat.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

That's not the study the headline comes from. The article links/references a few studies/surveys as well as specific personal experiences. The headline specifically comes from the much less reputable "resumebuilder" survey

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago

Doh. You’re right.

Yikes, this study isn’t super great. Not academic, not peer reviewed, didn’t post their data and survey questions, is being used to sell a product, and it seems like they’re getting flack about it and have to rerun it.

It might be correct, but there are a LOT of red flags.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Lol I'd like to see the stats for Pakistanis in IT

Have heard its impossible to get promotions if your coworkers or boss is Indian

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

It's also impossible to get promotions if you're Indian, but the wrong caste. India claims to have abolished the caste system, but anyone one that's dalit knows that's bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago

Any hiring manager who actually provided an answer to that question has violated EEO regulations.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

according to the Anti-Defamation League.

I think I see the problem right there. This is like quoting the KKK on issues regarding white people.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Headline is ambitious and ambiguous

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

One huge thing we could do to diminish anti-Semitic behavior in the world, is to stop calling the government committing a genocide by a religious title. Stop conflating the genociders and the religion.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

New study results:

If you have money, you can pay any number of "research groups" to prove anything that aligns with your beliefs...

Studies also find that sometimes other organizations whose existence is also predicted on your beliefs will back those studies...

Sources: hold on, I'll pay someone...

/s

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

I don't want to live on this planet anymore.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Yes that the alarming thing to worry about. Not the genocide that america is paying israel for.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

Two or more things can be alarming at the same time.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So we shouldn't worry about American bigotry? That's a weird hill to die on.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 10 months ago

Sounds legit

[–] [email protected] -3 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)

We need to repeat the same study for every definable group to draw any real conclusions

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

The study was about religious discrimination and looked at multiple religious groups.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/23780231211070920

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Probably 25% don't while 75% don't care either way.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 10 months ago

Religion poisons everything.