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[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

This isn't exactly an apples-to-apples comparison since F1 instituted a ban on refuling cars during pit stops in 2010

[–] [email protected] 25 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

They aren't refueling during the 1990 pit stop though.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 9 months ago (1 children)

upon further investigation, it turns out this is exactly and apples-to-apples comparison.

who knew?!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Well it looks like one of the guys had trouble with getting the nut on in the very first one...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

He shouldn’t be embarrassed; it can happen to anyone.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Arguably rules and regulations have changed too, to affect this. Back then they also refueled the car during pit stops. This has not been the case since 2010.

I believe that recently they have added a regulation forcing a sort of buffer time between the ready sign and when the car may leave

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Wait, so now they never refuel them during pitstops?

They do the whole race just by filling the tank before the beginning of the race!?!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah. They start with around 100kg of fuel.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Wow, so now I'm curious why they didn't do it in the previous years. I'm sure they refueled cars regularly during pitstops in the 1990's

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

You can run the car lighter if you can refuel during a pitstop. The extra time it cost to refuel is smaller than the lap time advantage a lighter car gives.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Due to the sports environmental appeal they have moved to much smaller engines, that are way more power efficient than they used to (1.6lit V6 hybrids) . I don't believe that they actually could run a whole race without refueling, in the earlier eras.

Further more they have added a limit on how many tires they can use per weekend (and per season) as well as how many engines and engine parts. In the "old" days they'd use a brand new engine for qualifying and discard it for a new one for the actual race. I belive that they are down to 3 engines per driver for the whole season.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

This is great! Thanks for the explanation!

I should have thought about it, because it's happened in regular life too: just like regular purpose cars on the street, even Formula One cars have become a lot more efficient and so they can run a lot more with a smaller tank.

It's amazing how much they've improved cars and how it makes cars from the 1990's appear clunkier (even if they did appear sleek at the time)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Yes. Not for the first time either.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Yeah, since it's safer.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Crazy that the pit crew were just wearing shorts and tees and not even a helmet. They act like collisions and fuel spills have never happened before in the pit lane.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Anything moving faster than them in the pit lane gets vaporized by friction with the air

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I also enjoyed Merc's double stack a while ago

And if you wanna see the exact opposite of double stacking masterclass... Look up Ferrari Monaco 2022 lmao

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Cries in Leclerc fan

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

Red Bull is consistently fast the past few years but that McLaren lit last year was amazing. Especially after the rule changes in recent years to try and slow down the pits for the sake of making sure the wheels are safely attached

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

How do they deal with potential collisions coming in and out of the lane like that?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Crews holding the car basically have to check. Failing to do so is called "unsafe release" and there is typically a penalty for that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

There's also dudes who job it is to move their air lines out of the way for their neighbor's pit stops. It's pretty well orchestrated.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

It isn't as chaotic as it looks. Going in the pit everybody is prepared and shouldn't be any problem. Going out there is a mechanic that signals when it's clear.

Sometimes there are screw ups, of course. Some bad and others quite funny, like when the driver stopped at his old team by mistake!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

When the video started, I immediately had this playing in my head.