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Abortion rights group places remaining 15 Conservatives on list of anti-choice MPs after vote on ‘fetal rights’ bill

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago

Conservatives. The type that don't support abortion because "think of the children!", but fly flags on their vehicles that say "Fuck Trudeau" with children walking down the sidewalk and sitting in the cars beside them.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


A vote on a controversial bill meant to expand “fetal rights” in Canada has left the country without a single pro-choice Conservative MP, according to an abortion watchdog organization.

This week, the Abortion Rights Coalition of Canada (ARCC) placed the last remaining 15 Conservatives on its list of anti-choice MPs after they voted in support of Bill C-311, dubbed the Violence Against Pregnant Women Act.

ARCC’s executive director, Joyce Arthur, said the private member’s bill was a thinly veiled attempt to encroach on Canada’s longstanding view that fetuses do not have personhood status.

Previous bills – the latest of which were also sponsored by Wagantall – have tried to ban sex-selective abortion (which is not widely practised in Canada) and to criminally punish people who injure a fetus while committing a crime against a pregnant person.

The Conservatives have long allowed free, unwhipped votes on issues related to abortion, euthanasia, conversion therapy and other “matters of conscience”.


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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I thought this sort of extremism was more of a feature of the States, but to think that it had infected our country as well to such a degree. The hilarious thing is that it was the religious figures that were originally pro-choice decades ago and were one of the deciding factors why abortions were originally legalized.

It's hard to imagine that this is considered a right wing issue rather than something radical, but more and more it feels like the right are defining themselves through the act of degrading personal freedoms and rolling back the clock wherever they can to the Victorian era.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It didn't "infect" anything. It was always here. I noticed it when I moved from Vancouver to Calgary as a kid. If you live in one of Canada's three major cities, you just aren't exposed to it, but the second you get into the suburbs or further, it's on full display. There's a reason we had Harper for an entire decade, gagging scientists, cutting corporate taxes, cuts to education and health care, and driving profits into the hands of the rich.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I suppose that's true. Harper specifically is a good example of that after all, as you say.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

O'Toole got voted out of the conservative leadership because of social conservatives. This is just the cumulation of that.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because conservatives are/represent and are voted for by religious fundamentalists.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Show me in the bible where is mentions "fetal heartbeat"??

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The funny thing about religious fundamentalists is their beliefs frequently outright contradict the written word of their religion...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Christians are often times the least Christ-like people you'll ever meet.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

That's a side effect of them not actually reading that book they claim is the "most important words ever written".

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Honestly most babies would die quickly without 24/7 monitoring, and for the first 6 months they look like little aliens lmao they BARELY count as people.

If fetuses count as people I guess so does a mosquito when it's sucking your blood, can't kill that!

Oops just got tapeworms and it's for life since they are living beings that I have an obligation to support since they are gods creations hurrdurr

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Yep. A newborn is pretty much a strange, smelly potato that poops and screams. Then a year or so later it sprouts legs and starts running around breaking stuff while screaming and pooping.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I wish logic worked on them, I really do.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

And you know, I'd respect Conservatives if they were consistent like that: if they were pro-life, but also supported comprehensive social services, a welfare state, sex education, full maternal, natal & pediatric care, etc.

But they don't. They don't even care particularly much for neonatal care. It's okay if your baby is gestated by someone who has nowhere to live, who has no access to quality food, no medical care and/or an abusive spouse.

It really is forced-birth, not pro-life.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

so when does ww3: revolution edition start about basic human rights