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Is anyone else getting downvotes for benign disagreements here? (lemmy.world)
submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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At least on Reddit there was some leveling of downvotes built into the algorithm. This site is making it seem like any slight disagreement leads to downvotes thus encouraging more echo chambers. Maybe it's the communities I'm commenting on?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You will get downvoted in any disagreement, that's not exclusive to reddit or Lemmy, that happens in any social media with downvotes.

The purpose of downvotes is to show what the general people in that common section think about your comment. You shouldn't give any hoot about it other than the info it provides.

Obviously, if you are talking in controversal topics or ones with conflicting sides, you are gonna see alot of downvotes. Its just people expressing their opinion.

Echo chambers are just a natural part of communities. People often come to feel validated so they stick to ones with the same thoughts as them. I don't recommend trying to argue/discuss with people who only want to "win" cuz there's nothing to gain.

Talk with those who argue because they want to learn or understand something better. (or perhaps help you learn something new)

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Thanks. I could be wrong, but I think on certain apps (like connect) with enough downvotes comments become hidden. I think my issue is that there isn't enough of a user base to even out the benign downvotes, and as a consequence any pushback on anyithing gets buried instasntly

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not downvotes, but I have noticed that some of my comments are either being deleted or hidden?

Either it's an issue on Lemmys end, or we got Spez wanna be mods in here deleting shit they don't like or disagree with.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’ve noticed that other people’s comments are hidden on some posts I’ve seen, like it says there are 8 but I see 2.

Is this a Mastodon/kbin versus Lemmy issue, is that it? I was under the impression that Mastodon users can post to Lemmy but not vice versa, but I don’t know anything about not being able to see comments in a post whose instance you can interact with otherwise.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

comments are hidden on some posts I’ve seen, like it says there are 8 but I see 2.

Lemmy has bug in counting too. Comments are often missing because of replication issues between servers. But the most common issue I'v seen with inflated comment numbers is edits being counted as new comments.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

edits being counted as new comments

Ooooh that makes sense. I’ve probably contributed to that, dealing with typos. Hope I haven’t been confusing anybody (else)…

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Not only downvoted, but my comment was also deleted by someone after it had like 60 downvotes. When that happened, I started considering moving away from Lemmy right after coming here, because it seemed to be a worse echo chamber than Reddit had ever been.

Only because it wasn’t easy and also not easily accessible via Memmy (which I really like) I stayed for the time being. For example, I can’t login to a kbin account (only subscribe to kbin communities) and I don’t have access to Mastodon using Memmy.

So I guess already like Apollo kept me with Reddit, Memmy keeps me here for the time being. I stopped participating in anything remotely controversial though and became a lurker because I learned that day, discussion and a variety of opinions are not what the majority of users here are after. Maybe that’s true for all social media, idk…

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Continue to still interact or else it will become an echo chamber

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

It's already an echo chamber. That's just how human interaction is. People aren't going to share unpopular opinions just to be argued with and downvoted. It's not worth it.

Take the recent question about religion. No way am I going to answer that, because I'm not atheist and I know how non-atheists are treated online.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

I hear you, but I’m not here to fight or be accused, ridiculed or hated upon. You can’t save people from themselves.

If it were only a few, but -60 within a few hours with such a small amount of Lemmy users tells me, this is not the place for civilized discussion. Not to mention that it got deleted… no thanks, I won’t be putting too much work and thought into critical comments anymore when there’s a risk of going to waste anyway.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I dunno, I’m just used to seeing upvotes when I’m supporting the thread I’m commenting in and downvotes when I am not.

The upvote system is stupid