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The most obvious possibility is AOC. In that case I am sure she'll move even further right and get totally ratfucked by the party regardless. That's the most jokerified option, I think. At the very least, her obvious ratfucking will push many more people to the left like the Bernie campaigns did.

But the worst possibility is some rando Democratic apparatchik we've never heard of like Mayo Pete showing up. They take up all the aesthetics of Bernie's campaigns, they receive the glowing endorsements of Bernie and the squad, but they seemingly refuse to outright promise anything we would call "good", and they suspiciously receive no material push-back whatsoever from the Democratic party establishment other than some clearly bad faith grumblings about how spooky and radical this person is. Win or lose, they completely suck the energy out of leftist movements in the imperial core for a further decade.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago (2 children)

brandon

He's the most progressive president since FDR

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You think the dems will ever figure out how much of a massive self own that is?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Lol no because the statement is meaningless and they already know that

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

What does that little bit of lingual programming say about obama thonk

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

Not to defend any of bernies actions for the past few years but a big reason Bernie got such a following is there were videos of him saying the same stuff back in the 80s. He got whittled down and ground out by the DNC but he was relatively progressive for a time with consistent messaging that resonated with people.

AOC seems to be doing a speed run of Pelosi's legacy and you can already make a compilation of her saying something progressive and then weepily explaining why she had to vote for the opposite of that along with the rest of the parry.

Not only is there not anybody even close to bernies previously stated beliefs, people are gonna be less likely to enthusiastically support them after getting burned last time around.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I think AOC will most likely fill that role, but it will functionally be closer to how you imagine it to go with Buttigieg. She's a full on DNC shill, but can still sheepdog just enough of the old Bernie coalition to be valuable. She'll be trotted out as the "radical far left candidate" and it'll be fine if she wins cause they know she'll only be "the most progressive president since Biden" and will sign off on bombing everything they want.

Mayo Pete couldn't even get regular libs excited let alone attract the peoole they need sheepdogged. I'm sure they'll try to keep making him a thing, but i don't see it working

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The thought of Mayo Pete perennially running for president for the rest of my life... doomer

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

The Buttigeig/Beto campaign set a new record this election cycle by somehow only receiving 8 votes in a national election.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The thought of watching Mayo Pete perennial fail for the rest of my life... bloomer

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Bernie was at least alone in the wilderness for the 80s 90s and 00s on a lot of stuff AOC started lecturing people to not criticize lib leadership in her first term.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Yeah she's a pure sheepdog

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

Mayo Pete

The CIA has a strong track record of being politically active in AES countries, I don't see what could go wrong

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

What, you're not thrilled by Zionist Newsmax boomer or AIDS Faith-Healing Tiktok boomer?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

It's still Her turn!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

Even libs should cast a hairy eyeball on anyone who came up through McKinsey.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

Jeff Merkley is my sleeper prediction. He has some similar beats to 2016 Bernie: no one knows about him, is left of the majority of dems, has a relatively safe seat in Oregon, history of regularly voting against the majority of the senate for things like military budgets, is a socdem. He tried to run in 2020 but wasn't able to convince the Oregon state government to allow him to run for senate and president at the same time.

Though I have my doubts that he has the energy or charisma to rally up the support. Otherwise, I see Pritzker as fitting the role.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

My gut reaction says Fetterman but im just basing that on vibes.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

The second is basically Obama minus the enthusiasm of being the first Black president, so I see that as the most likely model. Hope and Change!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

I'm voting evil Morty.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

So your worst possibility is Obama basically

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (3 children)

suck the energy out of leftist movements in the imperial core for a further decade.

Your post doesn't mention "workers" a single time, maybe try getting an actual solid foundation before you attempt to build a politic's? Just a thought!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

OP isn’t posting about politics, they are posting about theater. Ooh, what character is going to do a heel turn in season 3??

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

I'm sorry, I don't think I was attempting to "build a politics" of any sort. I was just shooting the shit about which lib politician would be directing self described American leftists toward electoralism next, like u/zed_proclaimer said

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

its just electorism talk

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Warren in the short term, AOC in the long term.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This seems weird, since they're separated by so many election cycles, but Elizabeth Warren is only one year younger than either Al Gore or Howard Dean.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

I think there will be a gap between Warren and AOC to be fair. But there probably won't be a "successor" to the Bernie mantle between them. Unless some firebrand comes out of left field I think most radlibs will just do lesser evilism with a normal Democrat.

There will certainly be progressives but none that become the progressive. AOC could be replaced by most members of the The Squad but I think she's shown she's willing to play the game.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

I don't even think Bernie could be the successor to Bernie going forward. 2016 an 2020 did a lot to turn young Americans onto leftist (and left-ish) politics, but in the same move they definitively turned that group off from electoralism, and then the man himself drove the final nails into the coffin of his own movement by refusing to meaningfully oppose the Democratic establishment.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

AOC either runs for president or she remains in congress like Nancy Pelosi and doesn't contend any races outside of her congressional district. The DNC has been fond of putting in tokens. They could get a "random" who's fairly well known to those paying attention but unknown in the public mind. There are plenty of people in congress and the senate who can claim they're progressive for supporting a handful of policies on paper.

Pete seems to be who they're pushing. The DNC is either more out of touch than I thought or suburban boomer Democrat voters like him more than I thought.