Unfortunately these bills were really never going to stand up in court and I'm surprised they lasted as long as they did. The best way forward is to reintroduce the same scholarships and admittance but make them income based.
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This is why they accuse slippery slope on everything, because that's what they intend to do.
Is this a US thing I don't get? How are diversity scholarships not affirmitive action?
But don't you dare call the GOP racist!
It’s not racism to not want different rules for different races. Make scholarships for people from underprivileged families, not from race.
Just because something is helping out a race that you want it to help out doesn’t make it free from racism.
It’s my understanding that diversity scholarships generally put those below the poverty line first.
Intention will be all over the place and it's not just about scholarships. It's about admission.
What it actually did was put middle class minorities in higher end colleges at the cost of middle class white kids. It did very little for anyone who couldn't afford the costs.
Affirmative Action means that degrees earned by minorities are worth less than the same degree by a white guy.
A side effect means that I seek straight male white or Asian doctors. My health is too important to trust to someone who only made it there because of that skin color or sexuality.
AA is hot garbage. It rewards rich minorities while punishing poor people. There's a reason everyone hates it.
Racial discrimination is unconstitutional. I don't care if it benefits you or me, it's wrong.
No buts. No what abouts. No "but a long time ago!" Just no.
I wonder what their final solution will be for diversity?
Black and brown people at the bottom ever subservient to a small elite of rich white cis straight men. It was never about the ‘unfairness’ of affirmative action. If it was you’ll also see them taking aim at the unfairness of legacy admissions as well. It has always been about keeping black and brown folk down and maintaining hierarchy.
Couldn't be that it was racist ineffective policy. No definitely not.
Are we also getting rid of legacy admissions? Or is that advantage acceptable?
Hold on let me find Dorothy, Tinman, and the lion and we have the entire crew to hang out with strawman.
Ignoring the fact that AA has nothing to do with legacy admissions and frankly wouldn't survive a challenge on it's own even in a less stacked court; no I do not think banning legacy admissions would be effective policy. Legacy admissions allow an individual to expand capabilities and capacity of educational institutions and get a favor in return. At it's core it helps more individuals get education at the cost of unfairness which frankly is built in at every level. That rich person will always have an advantage. You've fixed a small and trivial piece. They still have the network and funding.
It's frankly hurting the intended recipients to right a wrong that will not be fixed unless you somehow eliminate income equality. It's bad policy in pursuit of an unrealistic standard for us to achieve in this decade+.
You keep mentioning whether it's effective policy, but that has nothing to do with SCOTUS. Their one and only concern is whether the policy is constitutional. Effectiveness is for the other branches of government to deal with.
100%. You might want to tell the guy mouthing off legacy admissions then. I've already pointed out that the bitching is beyond the scope of this case.
Let's use a simple metaphor. You have a bridge. One side of the bridge is heavier than the other, so it's not balanced. You add a counterweight to balance the bridge.
Several years later, someone says "there's no need for this counterweight anymore, it's just unbalancing the bridge." If the bridge was rebuilt to address the imbalances, you'd be right. But it wasn't rebuilt, it's the same bridge with the same flaws it had when the counterweight was put in place. In an ideal world, we wouldn't need affirmative action. But pretending we're in that ideal world isn't actually solving anything.
In a world where people are good and decent, there would be no racists, bigots, xenophobes, misogynists or homophobes. These behaviors come exclusively from conservatives. Our world would be a much better place without conservatives.