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CBC says killing of Palestinians doesn’t merit terms ‘murderous,’ ‘brutal’ ⋆ The Breach (breachmedia.ca)
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[–] [email protected] 49 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Another example of why more and more people have less faith in traditional media.

I'm NDP, I support the CBC, I think everything should be owned and controlled by the public ... I'm socially minded and that the world should be more equitable place for everyone regardless of wealth and status.

But to see the CBC dive further into this hole and it makes me wonder if the operators of this public broadcaster are the ones that actively want it to be eroded and eliminated.

If this story occured in any other part of the world with any other country other than Israel ... there would be no debate and no confusion as to how to report it.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

CBC took a turn many years ago, somebody in charge wanted to treat it like a private company. So they will cater to whomever pays revenue. One example: They had some great new music channels promoting new canadian artists, it got shut down after a long run because the new leader said we don't know how many listeners we reach, and eveen with podcast downloads we don't know how many will listen (to ads) we have no way to monetize it, etc They are no longer invested in being a public system that does good for the sake of Canada.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I miss Radio3 so much. Indie music in Canada in the 2000s-2010s was astonishingly good.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Yep I discovered so many great artists through R3, and those year end wrap-ups they would do

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

it makes me wonder if the operators of this public broadcaster are the ones that actively want it to be eroded and eliminated

IIRC, this is largely the case with the BBC and how it's quality and relevance has diminished over the years: wolves were put in charge of the henhouse.

Eta: my point: it wouldn't be the first time a formerly respected public broadcaster had it's reputation undermined and (eventually) ruined. If we want to keep it, we have to get people out to vote: nothing we can do until the next election, but in the meantime, we can point to it and say "you enjoy the CBC? What about the radio version? D'you like knowing that such-and-such is a scam because of a CBC Marketplace piece?" (IIRC marketplace does those types of pieces)" and relate it to people on a personal level.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I know this is not your point, but it stood out to me with your choice of words: "I'm NDP" and "I support the CBC"

You're just you and you support the NDP too!

I'm sure that's what you meant anyway but it's just interesting the way we use words of identity with political parties. Eventually those words take root and it actually becomes your identity and other people become truly others.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Perhaps "I'm NDP" is a succinct description of how a person leans in the Canadian political landscape that might be informed by decades of voting behaviour, or even personal involvement in the political sphere. Or, perhaps it is a rigid and irrational us/them orientation like how you personally have interpreted it

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Regardless of how I interpreted it I'm just remarking that the use of the language stood out to me, next to "I support the CBC" after it.

Makes you think about words and how we use them and how that shapes us.

Anyway, ignore me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Public media does not mean there isn't someone powerful pulling the strings. Public works aren't funded by us, they're funded by the agencies that reserve the right to pull said funding regardless of public support. We fund those agencies.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well, they're wrong

[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You'd think that it would be considered more brutal given that the people committing the killings aren't even exposing themselves to a threat.

Cowards, in a word.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Ya, but it's remote.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (3 children)

It sucks that Canada doesn't have anything like AP News. Like, just give me the facts, don't tell me how to feel about them.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Anything that tells you how to feel about things is no longer news in my view. It's opinion pieces.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

There's a word for it: propaganda.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

It always has been, but people have forgotten.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

CBC's issue is that it does not tell you how to feel. That's the point here. Did you miss that?

And for AP news. We have ... The AP.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Really?

In a letter responding to a complaint filed by a reader, the public broadcaster acknowledged that they’ve used terms like “murderous,” “vicious,” “brutal,” “massacre,” and “slaughter” to refer only to Hamas’s attack on Israelis on Oct. 7.

But when it comes to the Israeli army’s bombing of Palestinians, which has killed more than 22,600 people as of Friday, CBC says they prefer to use terms like “intensive,” “unrelenting,” and “punishing.”

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Like the Canadian Press?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I don’t think the language should have to do with the comfort of the person delivering death

-Jeff Winch, a retired professor at Humber College

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

Short paraphrased from that guy -remote attacks are a confortable war so it's fine

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

Yeah...... fuck the cbc

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

The language that describes you is connected to the resources you have. A story as old as time.

If Hamas had an Israel-calibre military, I doubt they'd have planned the same attack as what actually occured in October.