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[–] [email protected] 46 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Nowakowski revealed (reported via Reddit ) that the two planned expansions were cancelled simply for technical reasons but he did not share additional details on what these technical reasons might be.

For me, these "technical reasons" are that from now on they want to put all their resources into Unreal Engine 5 and focus on The Witcher 4 (https://www.gamesradar.com/the-witcher-4-release-date/).

[–] [email protected] 28 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It makes absolute sense.

They spent a LOT of resources trying to tune their REDengine to meet the demands of Cyberpunk. I can only imagine the tech debt of them adding hack after hack to meet the promises of Cyberpunk after the release.

And over there is Unreal 5, which has many many successes. Even the shitty unreal games still function better than Cyberpunk on launch.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

I really hope that they keep REDengine alive, the graphics are amazing and, more important, feels different from UE5.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That's a bummer. I wouldn't mind getting more content even if it takes a long time. It's a great game.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Agreed, bummer to see cancelled rather than delayed. That makes me think the technical reasons were either really difficult to overcome game breakers, or a complete scapegoat. "Technically we didn't want to put the time or money into these" style

[–] [email protected] 37 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Hadn’t they been forward about this earlier? They canceled the 2 DLCs to focus on the follow up to CP2077 and the new Witcher IPs. Something to do with their old game engine, which they said proved harder to work with than expected, and moving onto an off the shelf engine.

Edit: here’s the Ars Techina article about it from Sept. 2023.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Edit: here’s the Ars Techina article about it from Sept. 2024.

they are already posting from the future about it!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

The AI overlords broke the space-time continuum.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

sept 2024!!! found the time traveler.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Iirc (I think there was a statement?) they were running into creation engine style issues with red engine as they really had to stretch it to make cyberpunk work. I'm sure we'll all be happier in the long run to not have the next cyberpunk come out like starfield.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I am a fan of them giving the game an end. Don't get me wrong, would love more cyberpunk content but everything does not need to continue forever. So basically with phantom liberty you have the full game. Now if they can just focus on finish polishing the game as they have been doing

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Ive commented this elsewhere but I think we would get a better standard of AAA game if we were all just a little more patient.

Id like to see more games like Cyberpunk say at launch. "We have a 5 year plan for this game. 1 major paid dlc and one smaller free dlc a year for 5 years. Than trying to rush some massive unfinished turd out the door and getting 1 expansion.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I'm going to go out on a limb and risk that once out "the door", any turd is pretty much finished.

I'll see myself out.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

To make the poop analogy for you.

You just ate more in one sitting than you ever have before consequently you are going to do a bigger shit than anyone else ever has before.

Which sounds like the better outcome... try and push out one massive nugget, or one still very impressive nugget with a few smaller followups leading to the same enormous bowl filling volume as the first option, just slightly less braggable.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Or you're lactose intolerant and what you ate was just a big hunk of cheese, ice cream and curd creating a horrorshow that covers the whole bathroom and yourself with your digestive system never recovering also known as live service games.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

We're deep into the shit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Or do it like Nintendo with Zelda and just delay it until it's finished. Definitely don't do it like Nintendo with Pokémon tho.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago

Well when you spend the first few years fixing the broken game you shipped it really eats into the making the dlc time.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Man that's too bad, I just hope they deliver a killer sequel at some point!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

I hope the modding community starts making content mods, but I doubt cyberpunk is as easy to mod as skyrim.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Technical reasons tends to mean that they'd painted themselves into a corner development-wise that was prohibitively expensive/time consuming to get back out of.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Technical debt is a bitch.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Hopefully the next CP game will be good (and actually a complete product). I beat it around launch and the highest praise I have is that the art department must have broken backs from carrying the entire game. I'm confident that if it wasn't for the incredible art assets, the game would be nothing, because it's not a fun thing to play with.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

I'm sure you're aware after all the press it's had recently, but the game was insanely fun following the 2.0 patch. So much so, in fact, that I had to force myself to reluctantly uninstall the game after I finally beat it (after delaying the main story for so long), just so I could move on to the other great games on my list.

With the incredibly high bar they've set themselves, the sequel is sure to impress. I still wouldn't advise anyone to preorder it though, just in case!