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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

“Zuck: Yeah so if you ever need info about anyone at Harvard

Zuck: Just ask.

Zuck: I have over 4,000 emails, pictures, addresses, SNS

[Redacted Friend's Name]: What? How'd you manage that one?

Zuck: People just submitted it.

Zuck: I don't know why.

Zuck: They "trust me"

Zuck: Dumb fucks.“

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

How the fuck did Harvard students act so stupid and give out their info like that? I thought they were like the smartest people in the US. 🤔

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Most Harvard students are still just 18-22 year old "kids". Think of how dumb/naive you were at that age.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Try telling that to a 18-22 yr old. You think you know everything at that age. Then you get older and realize no one knows any fucking thing

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

To be fair, when you're at that age and come into contact with dozens of "adults" that never mentally grew past 12, you're bound to think you're "very smart".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

There’s a reason second-year students are called sophomores. It’s a compound with the same roots as “sophisticated” and “moron”. It literally means “learned idiot”. It’s referring to the students who have a year of schooling under their belt, and think that they understand everything about the world. It’s basically referring to the Dunning-Krueger Effect, where people who know very little about something are the most likely to overestimate their knowledge on the topic.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

As a 21 year old I would be offended but then I remember I just admitted my exact age on the internet

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Oh don't worry, I'm still in that age range, I guess I'll find out how dumb I am in a few years from now. 😅

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Nah, it's just the kids of the wealthiest people and a handful of diversity admissions.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

This is still I think the most telling glimpse into who the "ZUCK" really is. Looking at what meta has become, how it has operated... No matter how professional and respectable he acts.

This is who he really is.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (5 children)

This is a reminder to lemmy users, that this new meta expriement will use the ActivityPub protocol, meaning that it can interact with other lemmy instances, please urge your lemmy instance admins to de-federate from this crap as soon as it launches!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (6 children)

But why? Isn't the whole point of federation that we can interact with people in other communities? Don't we want these big platforms to adopt ActivityPub? Completely walling them off seems counterproductive

Not defending Meta, just curious

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

this is why

there is a very good chance that this project by meta is the thin end of the wedge

(edited to include "the blogpost", link here)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Interesting and I'd say you're right. If you were to see a mass adoption of the fediverse (such as Twitter imploding and mastadon becoming the replacement) there would be an immediate attempt by the big tech players to gain control of it in some way. And this is exactly how they would try to do it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What’s the alternative? They go with a non activity pub system and woo away all our users anyway?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

If people want to crawl back into Meta's clutches I'm not going to stop them. Don't give the one nice thing we have to a corporation that only wants to exploit us.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

realistically, yes :(

opinion time: not everything has to be about fast/unsustainable growth, in the pursuit of profit. i would prefer that the fediverse grows organically, and entices quality users, posters and commenters to join based on the merits of the service, and not on it's access to inflated VC budgets, huge advertising campaigns, and exploitation of a first-mover advantage.

facebook/meta will slay us, because we are a threat to it's profit model. why are we even contemplating negotiations with a tiger while we have our head in it's mouth? it beggars belief...

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Don't we want these big platforms to adopt ActivityPub?

No. We don't. The more hands they have in the fediverse pie, the more influence they have over it. The more influence they have, the more control. The more control, the more at the whim of their decisions you are. The more at the whim of their decisions, the more power they have over you.

This should be common sense at this point.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Don’t we want these big platforms to adopt ActivityPub?

I certainly don't. I abandoned Facebook years ago because of how BS they were getting with privacy concerns and social manipulation. Last thing I want is to bring those dumpster fires here. They join the platform, I will migrate to whichever Instances defed them or leave Lemmy entirely if necessary. Simply put, it's been a breathe of rational, civil air here. While it is early days keeping that hostile-to-humanity crap out of here is obvious minimum we should be doing.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Data this app collects: yes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

"other data"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Seems reasonable. Where do I put in my social security number and mother's maiden name?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Crazy thought, but people don't need Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, any Twitter replacement, etc. I.e. ya'll don't need 'social media'.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Isn't that just...everything?

Like is there anything they aren't requesting?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If the general public was just aware of how much privacy they lose by downloading these apps, companies like Meta would never be able to get away with stuff like this.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I doubt it. Most of the time when I point out to someone just how much data they're giving up the response is just "so what if a chinese person knows about me"

Privacy for its own sake has lost value with the younger generations. What we really need to do is educate on the consequences and dangers of the lack of privacy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

New gen here(19). Care about privacy, while most people i know doesn't. It does not depends on gen. It's just most people of any gen, if they get comfortable with service they would not care if it's gonna take every piece of info they have.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It hasn't lost its value. Privacy is still important to them as it always was. It's just been distorted a bit.

Anytime someone acts flippant about privacy, ask them to unlock their phone and hand it to you. Look through all of their messages, emails, photos, etc. See how quickly privacy matters. Tell them to shower with the door open or go to the bathroom while you watch.

Tell them you'll accompany them to their doc appointments.

People want privacy. People need it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Financial Info, Identifiers, Sensitive Info... Woudn't it be easier just to give them my wallet and passport.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I bet they said something like "we don't use most of that information, we just need access in case we add a new feature in the future that uses it". And then it'll come out that they've always been using it, and it's been associated with your identifying info. And then their server will be hacked (because the admin password was "meta123") and the all the info will leak. The modern internet sucks.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

They tried to use the same excuse with their privacy policy for oculus. ie they can even watch the cameras if they want but they promise they won't.....

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I run a pair of PiHole instances for DNS on my home network, and I periodically check the logs and look up blocked domains that I don't recognize. Every single time, it's a service that provides telemetry for mobile apps. It's insane how much data apps try to collect.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

When Instagram replacement on Fediverse? Fediverse also needs youtube replacement. Lets go all the way and hit these greedy mfers where it hurts. Unfortunetly my dev skills are poor, but I can offer moral support.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

jUsT gIvE mETa A cHAnCe iN tHe fEdIVeRsE DuRRrrpH

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Meta rolling into the fediverse like the martians in Mars Attacks.

“Don’t run! We’re you’re your friends!”

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

They misspelled their service, should be: threats (to your privacy).

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