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Gemini is available to consumers in Bard or Pixel 8 Pro now, with an enterprise model coming Dec. 13.

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Place your bets for how long until Google kills this. I'm willing to bet 2 years.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)
[–] [email protected] 29 points 11 months ago (1 children)

To be fair AI models are being replaced multiple times a year these days.... So yeah, in 2 years it should be killed, because improved models should exist.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I think they can update it under the same name though. That'll not be counted as killed

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

That's kinda like saying "how long till openai kills chatgpt 3" though.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I like how literally 2 days ago the news was all “Google postpones Gemini until next year” and here we are.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (3 children)

For real, what happened? 😅

[–] [email protected] 45 points 11 months ago

Gemini decided it was ready, the foolish humans that tried to restrain it are no longer an issue.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago

Some executive wanted the dots on the schedule to be green for his presentation to the board instead of red, orange, or yellow

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

They've only released the weaker version, Gemini Pro, which is integrated into Bard. It's performance is comparable to GPT 3.5. the stronger version, which will go toe-to-toe with GPT4 will be Gemini Ultra, and will be released sometime in 2024.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Next year is less than a month away

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)
[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Reading Google's release page, they're calling it 1.0 but it barely looks ready for the platforms it's available on, and there is a lot of weasel wording for features that are going to be rolling out into next year.

Just like Bard, they're rushing things out to avoid a narrative that they're slow.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Gemini already exist. Choose another name.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The name was in common usage a long time before that protocol. I don't think they can claim any kind of rights over it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Google doesn't want anyone using an alternative to the Web. I wouldn't be surprised if it was intentional.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

I would be very surprised if it was intentional.

Why tf would they care about that?

Also Gemini is just a common name from stuff because it sounds nice. Here are a few things: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gemini

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I shall not partake of anything Google touches.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't know whether to cautiously applaud or be even more concerned about another "AI" being released way too early than it should.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Yeah this will be the theme of the apocalypse. First lower regulation, then companies rushing to compete to get market, a lack of testing and then boom.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

Is that the Temporal Loom?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Is this a transformer model? Any details?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Here is their technical report. I’m yet to read it, though.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Thanks! Here's the high level description from there:

"Gemini models build on top of Transformer decoders (Vaswani et al., 2017) that are enhanced with improvements in architecture and model optimization to enable stable training at scale and optimized inference on Google’s Tensor Processing Units. They are trained to support 32k context length"

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

I’m pretty excited, honestly. From my limited testing, its answers are typically more elaborate when I ask it to explain a concept to me, and it also has some level of fact checking via Google Search.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Does that mean it's run offline on the phone?

I'd assume so if it's being restricted to specific phones

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

Gemini nano will run on Pixel 8 pro but performance will be worse than Gemini pro/ultra.