I personally switched back to Firefox after 13 years earlier this year and was surprised just how easy it was. All my main extensions exist on Firefox and it gave me an opportunity to remove some extension bloat at the same time. Highly recommend.

I guess nitter needs to be renamed to...nix?

Mandatory Opera is fucking evil comment.

I really hope Microsoft sees the light. Edge is the best browser for my productivity. Can't work without their implementation of vertical tabs and tab groups.

Every so often I try it out on firefox and any option is just still not ideal.

Brendan Eich is an asshole deep in the Conspiracy Victim Complex too. I like Brave search as an alternative to Google but I'm still using Firefox

You may be right but I have been using Brave on iOS simply because you can’t just install Firefox and uBlock, and since I reconfigured the new tab page I haven’t seen any ads anywhere at all.

From now on, any browser that refuses to implement Google‘s evil shit should be worth a look.

At least there is a big (ish?) player in the Chromium-sphere pushing back against this.

The more browsers that don't initially support this, the slower adoption by web sites will be. If enough of the browser market share remains incompatibe, and if we're lucky, maybe this technology won't stick.

I never liked Brave. The whole "allow ads to get awards" thing doesn't sit right with me. The only adblockers that do that are the ones that are in bed with the ad companies. Firefox with UBlock Origin and NoScript is all you need.

(I mean, there are other good addons for privacy as well, but it's easy to go down a rabbit hole and next thing you know you have 30 different extensions installed and websites are breaking. Then you have to start disabling things one-by-one until you find the culprit. Setting your security settings in FF to "Strict" and using those two addons should be good enough without going overboard.)

Edit: only thing that sucks about Firefox is that it still doesn't support HDR and RTX Video Super Resolution yet, so in the meantime I use the "Open in Chromium" browser extension when I'm watching videos on YouTube, so that they display properly with all the enhancements.

When Google chrome was released in 2008, I read about it in a tech magazine and it described how much it’s going to be spying on you. I was immediately put off by it, and decided not to install it. At the time I wondered why would anyone ever install this junk. Oh boy, was I in for a surprise! Pretty much everyone installed it, and within the next 10 years chrome had become the most popular browser.

Obviously, I never switched from FF.

Time to switch to Firefox as the base.

It might be interwoven, but at the end there are three interfaces:

1. the headers or tags that trigger it to be enabled for a website
2. the API towards the attester
3. the headers that are added to subsequent call to include the verdict of the attester

It should be enough to disable/sabotage nr. 1. If not, you can sabotage nr. 2 so it simply doesn't attest shit. And finally you can suppress adding the verdict to the responses.

If the actual "fingerprinting" or whatever else is in there is still intact doesn't matter if you just don't trigger it.

Of course webservers would simply deny serving brave then. But it's still a good move. The more browsers get "denied", the easier it will be to make a case against websites for some kind of discrimination.

Just a reminder that Brendan Eich who founded Brave was ousted from Mozilla for being a homophobic piece of shit.

Brave is the edgelord of browsers.

I don't like it because it's a chrome derivative. Sure, they use Chromium and can edit some things. But at the end of the day, they use the Chrome javascript engine and render the HTML/CSS however Google wants to. Therefore Google more or less defines how that browser represents the web. If Google wants to implement or not implement some web standard, Brave has to follow along whether they like it or not.

I want less power in Google'a hands, not more.

As a normal browser user:

The browser works fine, although with time they kept adding more and more stuff that I had to disable. I could deal with it, but it's not a browser I'd recommend to most of my friends.

After a few years using Chrome and then Brave, I moved back to Firefox. Not as polished, but works fine for me.

As a Brave Rewards/Creators user:

I simply don't trust them anymore.

I used it for a while to make some money with my site. Some people used Brave (like me), so since they were blocking ads, I confirmed my site so I could get some of the automated donations the browser sends to the top sites people visited that month. I received a few payments, had everything confirmed, paid taxes on the revenue... all 100% legit, never tried to game the system or anything like that. It wasn't much, but helped with running costs.

One day I couldn't login to see my balance, but ignored it and forgot about it. Then they sent me an email asking me how I was making that money, to which I replied. Months went by without any reply... until I forced the issue. Then they banned my account without providing any reasons or a way to appeal. My site was still verified, so I assume I was still receiving donations, which I could not access. The site continued to be displayed as "verified" even after them banned me... I have no idea if they sent the donations back to the senders. I actually had to ask them to un-verify the site if they were going to keep my account banned.

The way they dealt with it was bad and receiving donations to a banned account is shady as fuck. I wouldn't use the word "hate", but I just can't trust them.

I think it's largely because of Brendan Eich not supporting gay marriage. The browser itself seems fine to me also.

And that's exactly the point. WEI makes it a world where big tech decides if they are going to support a competing browser, a competing operating system like Linux, or plugins against ads. They can also force you to have any number of plugins installed, from their choosing.

It destroys the free web completely.