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[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What does this have to do with conservatives?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Conservative means resistant to change. No one mentioned the noun form.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Conservative in politics means resistance to social change. Resistance to infrastructure change is colloquially called NIMBY. A conservative in the US would generally be pro more roads, as that's doing more of the same.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You used it in noun form too... Anyway I get what you mean

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

If I said, "San Francisco can be warm too" would that make warm a noun? Because I was taught that it was an adjective.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's car brain more than conservatism. Car brain has infected those on all sides of the political spectrum

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Politics is inherently multi-dimensional. Car-brain vs walkability is mostly orthogonal to conventional left vs right politics.

Chuck Marohn of Strong Towns has always made a conservative argument against car centric infrastructure - emphasizing that it's not fiscally sustainable, that the other approach worked for literal millennia, and that cities should be allowed to be complex and evolve bottom-up rather than via top-down government mandates.

And there's tons of liberals who have fully bought into car-brained thinking.

Honestly, framing it as left vs right is a bad strategy. We should emphasize how sprawl is bad regardless of which side of the aisle you're on. It's expensive, it requires government overregulation, it's bad for everyone's health, it's bad for the environment, etc.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

yeah, but was she wearing a helmet?